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JETTY (song in 5/8)
Started this discussion. Last reply by Mike Hewer Jun 22. 10 Replies 0 Likes
This is an old song of mine in Greek text. It started off as a simple vocal idea accompanied by guitar and mandolin (a 3 minute song), and it ended up recently like what follows. Apart from questions…Continue
Valse in Am & Fugue in A
Started this discussion. Last reply by Socrates Arvanitakis Jun 9. 28 Replies 1 Like
I have written a lot of verses in my life and it is a big race for me to try setting to music as many as I can.A lot of songs result, usually accompanied by chamber ensembles or just one instrument.…Continue
Technical Request
Started Jun 2 0 Replies 0 Likes
Technical request for admins I wish we had a pdfview facility for musical quotes in different threads. It only takes a few lines of HTML code, but it can be found free as a routine in HTML boards.It…Continue
AFTER BIG BANG
Started May 15 0 Replies 0 Likes
Fugal writing seems to be in fashion currently on this forum, so here is a vocal one (I could not turn it into a song cause I did not have any more ideas on the lyric side).Any comments/criticisms…Continue
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Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"All of what you mentioned Teoh is to me legitimate, creative and agreeable, and I have already stated so, in a previous post.
My example of the Diabelli sonata (and mention of Giuliani Rossinianes) refer to something else, namely to Bream's…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Stephen Lines's discussion Acoustic (classical) Guitar"Thanks for the XML Stephen. Since you intend to transpose the piece in A I will do the same and have a much closer look. I will be back as soon as I have finished with it. :-)"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"I would assert that one major of composers intentions (dead or alive) would be/is : Leave my music as it is, unless invited to do otherwise. (Or as Stravinsky said to the publisher: All the wrong notes are right).
Your comment could be well…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Stephen Lines's discussion Acoustic (classical) Guitar"All the above is verry good advice Stephen!"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"It is all very fine, gentlemen, you have been referring to all sorts of what would be/is to me very legitimate practices of quoting and borrowing.
Bob, this example does not concern my feelings as a guitar player whatsoever, or indeed…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Stephen Lines's discussion Acoustic (classical) Guitar"Hi Stephen,
I did not here the piece yet, this is an immediate reaction on the score as I opened straight to your thread this morning.
I would like to ask if you could also upload a XML file for your piece so that I can reload it on to my score…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"Teoh that to me sounds like quoting, legitimate borrowing, whatever, and then applying a different compositional treatment. I'm talking about cutting sections and sticking them somewhere else where they don’t belong to. That is what the…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"Bob, my issue is not whether the music of this particular sonata is good but whether it has been butchered. Probably Beethoven was right in his critisism (though I've read that it was a little on the savage side), but anyway he had better…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"I ain't heavy either man :-) (well, perhaps a little under the weather...it's a rainny day over here, I 'll follow your example and go for a brandy, whiskey being scarce in here)"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"Do you meanI caused trouble in your thread Ray? If so, you did ask if we think it's true that composers intentions are more important than resulting performance (?). Well in cases like the above, i believe YES they are."
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"Please put full screen on and follow the inscription on the bottom of the screen between 0:56 - 2:37 which explains/tries to justify the story. This sonata has been so much Frankensteinized that is not called the grand sonata in A by Diabeli…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Lawrence Aurich's discussion 2016 A Spacey Odyssey finale"Hi Lawrence,
This is a screen shot of MuseScore's Style =>General =>Score window, in which you can activate/de-activate some features towards creating multiple bar rests for parts and hiding empty bars in selected passages for scores. It…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"Good morning Ray,
If you think we've digressed a little then apologies, but I still think notational or "primadona" attitudes that Teoh and I referred to have sometimes very much to do with composer's intentions and…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"I am not at all familiar with Jianpu as you described it but I find it very fascinating and quite logical.
Pretending is not unknown to me as I have done it a lot with recorders, since they are not written as other transposing WW, but one has to…"
Socrates Arvanitakis replied to Ray's discussion Is it really true? Composers' intentions are more important than the resulting performance!"Transposition can be very weird on different instruments. I am a quite competent sight reader on Classical guitar, recorder (both F & C instruments) and mandolin, but out of the three I'm better on the guitar which 80% of classical…"
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- What have you composed for? Or what medium do you work around?
- Choir, Orchestra, Small Ensemble, Big Ensemble, Songs, Contemporary Ensembles, Other
- What is your favorite genre or style of music?
- Main stream, Jazz, traditional
- Is music your main income source?
- Yes!
- Where do you live?
- Greece and UK
- About Me (Must include biographical information about you as a composer):
- I studied at Middlesex University (BA) and London University (Mmus), composition and ethnomusicology.
I am a classical guitar player and I also play the bouzouki, mandolin, recorder, Cretan lute and a little the fiddle.
I am both a traditionalist and a modern composer.
I have composed various works (still in manuscript) and at the moment I write a lot of (tonal/modal songs) based on my own lyrics. It is those that I intend to submit for criticism and help in the first place and also I find some of the threads and discussions interesting and I would like to participate occasionally.
- Website:
- http://www.helicon.gr/
2, 3, 4 STRING QUARTET no. 1
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The first of my completed string quartets. Serial techniques used throughout.
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SUNSET IN RIALTO
Posted on May 14, 2017 at 1:22am 0 Comments 0 Likes
Just an old song of mine in a home recording from last summer. Me and a friend on guitars and him also singing it as my voice was quite out of order. Since it has Greekk lyrics I give a rough translation
VENEZIA…
Continue A DEEP SEA
Posted on November 30, 2015 at 8:01pm 2 Comments 0 Likes
Although changes of tempo and fermatas are included in the PDF and are part of the performance instructions they have been avoided in the XML and MP3 files as they would hinder the synchronization of sound and video (for some reason that I have not discovered yet), but they are realized in this live recording of 2002 when I had an alto voice available.
Sorry about the cello sound, I was just improvising on an old Yamaha guitar synth that was about in the studio, but then I lost it.…
Comment Wall (4 comments)
- At 4:44am on March 8, 2015,
Ray said… Socrates,
Leave Oh Oh alone.............he's a straight up and down nut case.
Ray
- At 10:52pm on September 23, 2014,
michael diemer said… Solstice was not intentionally composed as theme and variations, but I can see why you might think that. As for the other two, only Skating is up there yet. I'm going to rework that, and then revise the third movement, Late February. thanks for listening.
- At 10:44am on September 20, 2014, michael diemer said…
Socrates, the music for Solstice is in my player on my page. you need to have Adobe Flash Player installed to run it.
- At 8:45am on September 18, 2014,
Gav Brown said… Welcome Socrates!
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