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What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?

Started this discussion. Last reply by J. Mac Dec 25, 2014. 16 Replies

Say you have a client who tells you, "I want you to make me an original music. But I want it to sound like John Powell's This Is Berk from the movie How to Train Your Dragon." And you have access to…Continue

How should I spend my hours to learn composing?

Started this discussion. Last reply by composerrogue Sep 4, 2014. 8 Replies

Hello. I'm a video game composer for small games, usually for kids. My compositions are mainly easy melodies and not a lot of harmonies, counterpoint, and instrumentation involved. I've never been in…Continue

 

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J. Mac replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"Hey Everyone! Thank you so much for all your help. I have read everything and it's quite a lot to take in and actually do it. Some are completely new to me but I'm still open to doing them. I'll try them out and see which…"
Dec 25, 2014
Olmnilnlolm replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"Fredrick said, "This is a good way to analyze listeners impressions of a composition but I doubt if it sheds any light on the compositional technique of the composer. Analysis of composional technique is a pretty well accepted way of…"
Dec 19, 2014
roger stancill replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"As an expert in opinion Juls, I will add my 2 cents; I think key is the least important of the 4 items listed. High on my list would be the particular style of musical phrasing that I think is the 'signature' of each…"
Dec 18, 2014
michael diemer replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"Analyzing is the Deductive method. The Osmotic, or intuitive way, is to simply listen to lots of  music. I do so constantly. At times the radio is playing while I am actually composing. By listening to so much music, your brain forms over time…"
Dec 18, 2014
Olmnilnlolm replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"I always thought the best way to analyze a piece of music was to sit down in a room with someone who has an excellent sound system. Gather together a very small group of people, as few as two or three, maybe as many as four or five. These must be…"
Dec 18, 2014
Olmnilnlolm replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
""Perhaps something can be learned by examining how Prokofiev arrived at the music in his "classical" symphony. Did he study Haydn for this exercise?" Off the top of my head, I would suggest the following.  Prokofiev…"
Dec 15, 2014
michael diemer replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"I do get that. Makes me glad I only compose for fun."
Dec 14, 2014
Greg Brus replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"Because when a director has a movie with a temp track and it's temp track he likes a lot, he doesn't actually want the composer to create "something new". He wants that exact piece that's already in the movie, done again.…"
Dec 14, 2014
michael diemer replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"Whatever works. for some, analysis works. for others, it's more intuitive. Study will help you pass courses. but only listening, with an artist's ear, will really help you become a composer."
Dec 13, 2014
J. Mac replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"Hi Greg and Michael! Thanks for answering! You two made good points. And I want to ask you two or anyone who reads this: What if you want to sound like an artist to expand your "range" or just really understand what's…"
Dec 13, 2014
michael diemer replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"Being an amateur who composes just for fun, I probably shouldn't answer this. But my instinctive reaction is, why would I want to pretend to be someone else? And why would someone want me to? If they want so and so, they should try to get so…"
Dec 13, 2014
Greg Brus replied to J. Mac's discussion What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?
"But if a client says this, what he means is he wants the piece to sound TO HIM like Powell's whatshisname. YOUR understanding of the key elements in the source may or may not be relevant, but generally relying fully on your own analysis can…"
Dec 13, 2014
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What is your process on analyzing and fully understanding a piece?

Say you have a client who tells you, "I want you to make me an original music. But I want it to sound like John Powell's This Is Berk from the movie How to Train Your Dragon." And you have access to the score of it. What do you do? What is your process and how do you try to understand a piece? I think being able to write an original music that sounds like the one you're analyzing means you at least understand something about the piece. What do you look for? Instrumentation? Key? Form?…See More
Dec 13, 2014
composerrogue left a comment for J. Mac
"Yeah, I don't why this happened. I can post PDFs on the main page but not on a reply. Unfortunately I don't have the files on this computer, I will have to retrieve them later from my home base. If you like, I could email them to you. My…"
Sep 18, 2014
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"Here's some more counter-point PDFs that I found...Thought you might like them."
Sep 13, 2014
composerrogue replied to J. Mac's discussion How should I spend my hours to learn composing?
"Glad you like it! Personally I love counterpoint. I use it to some degree in all of my writing, even if only to break the rules of counterpoint. The idea of keeping each line independent applies no matter if I am writing a fugue or a shredding metal…"
Sep 4, 2014

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Film, progressive, video game
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I work as a video game composer, but I didn't study music in college. I just try to compose based on my knowledge with the guitar. Hopefully this site will help me be a better composer.

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At 5:56pm on September 18, 2014, composerrogue said…

Yeah, I don't why this happened. I can post PDFs on the main page but not on a reply. Unfortunately I don't have the files on this computer, I will have to retrieve them later from my home base. If you like, I could email them to you. My email is composerrogue@gmail.com.

At 10:44am on September 13, 2014, composerrogue said…

Here's some more counter-point PDFs that I found...Thought you might like them.

At 11:01am on August 27, 2014, michael diemer said…

Welcome Juis!

We’d like to hear your music! The main area for posting is the “Music Analysis and Critique” discussion, which is here:

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Glad to have you aboard and hope you enjoy the Composers Forum!

Michael Diemer

 

 
 
 

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