H. S. Teoh replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Meanwhile, the excellent cutting edge stuff being ignored today will become famous about 50-100 years from now. The composers will be famous, and the music historians will be chronicling them.
I'm of two minds about this.  As somebody once said,…"
16 hours ago
H. S. Teoh replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Most people today still think they are going to get assaulted when they hear the words new music. Even though almost all new music is tonal today.
Yeah, this is really unfortunate.  There are some atonal/serial music that's actually really well…"
16 hours ago
Jon Corelis replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
""While movement length is just one aspect of trying to make contemporary classical music more popular, it is perhaps the most important one."
I agree that short, self-contained pieces are more likely to find an audience today than long, sprawling…"
18 hours ago
Rob J Kennedy replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Yes, just ask Bach and Satie."
yesterday
Frank Paul replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Meanwhile, the excellent cutting edge stuff being ignored today will become famous about 50-100 years from now. The composers will be famous, and the music historians will be chronicling them.
"The modern day composer refuses to die"
---Edgar Varese…"
yesterday
Frank Paul replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Meanwhile, the excellent cutting edge stuff being ignored today will become famous about 50-100 years from now. The composers will be famous, and the music historians will be chronicling them.
"The modern day composer refuses to die"
---Edgar Varese…"
yesterday
Rob J Kennedy replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Yes, Frank, making "serious" music marketable today is difficult on many levels. We have to contend with streaming service algorithms that favour popular music over other forms simply because they are popular, they push what is being listened to.…"
yesterday
Gavin Brown replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"BTW "short" does not mean "unserious.""
yesterday
Frank Paul replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"This is insightful, as it pertains to a topic I had not thought of before; i.e., making "serious" music marketable in the modern era where most people don't have the personal context with traditional symphony-length, long form works. I'm not yet…"
yesterday
Rob J Kennedy replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"It's the same here in Australia, Dane. A few composers will get most of their music aired, but that's only becuse they are known, or know someone. Unknowns, are never given the chance because they are unknown, the old catch 22."
yesterday
Rob J Kennedy replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"People have not suddenly stopped listening to classical music, David, but its audience is getting smaller all the time. It's getting so small, that even BBC 3 is under threat, especially with the conservatives in power. We need to address the…"
yesterday
David Owen replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"there's no doubt that to actually get a work performed, a role as a concert filler of around 5-10 minutes is certainly more palatable than something longer. The problem is that serious works tend to have a serious length so for many of us, even if…"
yesterday
Dane Aubrun replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"I tend to agree somewhat with Owen above. The 'class' of people attracted to classical / art music aren't those who'd instincitvely tune in to fashion and rap; and will have more staying power. Some may be attracted to both (such as myself, an…"
yesterday
David Owen replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"my main movements tend to be 10-15 minutes and a typical composition length is half an hour (the vast majority of my serious works are 20-45 minutes). This corresponds to most of the greatest instrumental works in musical history and I'm not aware…"
Monday
Rob J Kennedy replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Yes, Gav.
I know I can be just as inventive and create music just as complex or simple no matter what the form or length. Still, getting people to listen to it, and then like it and request it, that's equally as important."
Monday
Gavin Brown replied to Rob J Kennedy's discussion Length of movements
"Hi Rob, 
This echoes my own approach. I am mostly writing in what I call a pop-classical style, limiting length of single pieces to 3-5 minutes, and keeping the format to ABA.
Gav"
Monday
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