Greg Brus replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"Machine gun effect. Argh.
Anyway, everybody starts with no education whatsoever and remain so until they educate themselves :P So that isn't a problem.
I really think you should get around to obtaining some, at the very least, semi-decent sample…"
Aug 17, 2016
Lara Poe replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"I struggle with this as well, as notation software rarely matches what I have in my head.  To make matters worse, it's difficult to get it to play microtones accurately– I mean, Sibelius does have quarter tone playback, but I rarely use it, and they…"
Aug 17, 2016
Patrax replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"I am currently working on a track that is supposed to symbolize a school in the extended harry potter universe, it's a school on a ship that always changes it's location to avoid muggle detection and where the students learn both offensive magic and…"
Aug 17, 2016
Patrax replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"Alright, i shall have to scour the interwebs even deeper.
I just dont feel like spending money on VST's yet, especially if i dont know how to work them.
Thanks for all the replies, it's been very helpful."
Aug 17, 2016
Greg Brus replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"More VST side than DAW side. You will tweak MIDI data in the DAW to make notes blend better etc., but stuff like different articulations are all in the VST. Depending on the sample library you will have several patches loaded and hooked into…"
Aug 16, 2016
Patrax replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"I've used the built in ones in VST'sCubase, and that has worked because i've never really needed dynamics in the songs i've used orchestrated instruments for. It's just been simple notes, and when i've made my midi tracks and transported them in, it…"
Aug 16, 2016
Greg Brus replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"I suppose you begin with making the MIDI track -> VST -> output setup work. After that you mess around with your patches until you have some understanding of what they're capable of :P
What samples do you have?"
Aug 15, 2016
Patrax replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"So from reading all this, it is painfully obvious that i have no idea what i'm doing. I tried to import the Notion midis into Cubase and it all became a mess, the dynamics and stuff i've added to notes dont follow into the DAW. And while i've…"
Aug 15, 2016
H. S. Teoh replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"Yes, I know that's only the start. But the idea is reusability. If you need to perform tweak X on a group of 25 notes, you should be able to specify X once, and apply it to all 25 notes (or better yet, an unlimited number of notes thereafter)…"
Aug 12, 2016
Greg Brus replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"Unfortunately, that's barely the start of what needs doing before it all sounds good :P
Oh, and of course this should all be presented up-front and not hidden. Except you can't have everything up-front. Good notation programs do a LOT of different…"
Aug 12, 2016
H. S. Teoh replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"No. I'm saying that the computer automate the tedious work, and the human direct how the computer does it so that the correct results are produced. Integrating everything into the same program means you can freely switch between the notation layer…"
Aug 12, 2016
Greg Brus replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"That's what we do when we use two separate pieces of software, us humans working as the intermediate layer.
You're asking for AI that's at least as good as a composer who's competent both with notation and with a DAW. A bit of a stretch, in my…"
Aug 12, 2016
H. S. Teoh replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"I agree that Beethoven had the experience to draw from. Still, one can't help but gape in awe at the fact that he could still compose those masterpieces even after he had gone completely deaf. I suspect most of us here would be utterly lost as to…"
Aug 12, 2016
Greg Brus replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"To be fair Beethoven didn't need to transcribe what he's imagining onto paper, he only had to choose one of the several hundred solutions (from actual existing pieces of music) he was already familiar with to do the job. Perks of having solid…"
Aug 12, 2016
H. S. Teoh replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"Totally understandable.
Though I'd say that one of the greatest skills a composer can learn is to be able to write the correct instrument or instrument combination that produces the sound desired, without actually hearing it. Some of the greatest of…"
Aug 12, 2016
Patrax replied to Patrax's discussion Sound quality versus songwriting
"Thanks for all the replies so far, it makes things feel far less lonely.
I think that my experience with DAW's are a bit limited. I've used Cubase for everything but i havent been able to properly get staccato notes and stuff like that when…"
Aug 12, 2016
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  • Greetings Patrax,

    Your composition Shield has a nice feel to it. Keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing.

    Very best,

    Larry Elliott

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