Ingo Lee replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion New Age pad sounds - SFZs or SF2s welcome - or affordable VSTs wanted....
"Well Chris like I said I'm no expert but I'm happy to talk about my approach to this stuff. Doing this work is more of what they call sound design than composition and I'm more into composition but there is common ground between the two.
There are…"
Nov 9, 2020
Christopher John Ulrich Burke replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion New Age pad sounds - SFZs or SF2s welcome - or affordable VSTs wanted....
"Dear Ingo Lee.I'd dearly love you to explain how you did it!  The problem I usually have is that all these YouTube tutorials - not saying your explanation, just the YouTube tutorials - only seem to work on the VST they're designed to work on.  I get…"
Nov 8, 2020
Ingo Lee replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion New Age pad sounds - SFZs or SF2s welcome - or affordable VSTs wanted....
"HI Chris -
I don't do much ambient and I'm certainly no expert but here's a clip of a piece that I did. If this is anywhere close to what you want to do I can explain how I did it.
Ambient%20sample1.mp3"
Nov 7, 2020
Christopher John Ulrich Burke left a comment for Mikolaj Holowko
"Dear Mikolaj.Sorry for this second message - just noticed you live in Brighton same as me. Small world!!Do you ever give lessons? Could sure do with some in using softsynths/sound sourcing/mixing!!Yours respectfully (again) Chris."
Jun 1, 2018
Christopher John Ulrich Burke left a comment for Mikolaj Holowko
"Dear Mikolaj.Here are 2 links, one to a Mike Rowland piece, one to a piece by Medwyn Goodall. You only have to listen to the first few seconds of either to answer the following questions! Re. the Medwyn Goodall piece - where's he getting his…"
Jun 1, 2018
Chris Carman replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"Forgot to mention, if you Google around there are other presets available.

For example:
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2013/04/25/bpb-zebralette-freepack/

I don't know if there's anything actually useful in that freepack, but it was on the first…"
Jun 17, 2015
Christopher John Ulrich Burke replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"Thanks, Chris - another synth. firm I've never heard of  (and I thought I'd Googled pretty well!)

I'm over there right when I finishe typing this.

Thanks again - I'll write a toon using them every bit as bad as the one I uploaded here (AARGH!!)…"
Jun 16, 2015
Chris Carman replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"I'm a fan of the U-he soft synths.  I really like the sounds from Zebra and Diva.  You can download Zebralette for free from their site and it has a bunch of presets that are quite usable rite out of the gate.  I don't claim to be an expert when it…"
Jun 16, 2015
Christopher John Ulrich Burke replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"Dear Spiros. 

I DO know what I want them to sound like,  that' swhy I put the links in the O.P..,  because they're composers who's sounds I've loved for ages.  They're all blends of sounds, or seem to be, gentle mixes of voices and drones,…"
Jun 16, 2015
Spiros Makris replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"My main point is, instead of buying presets (ie, a synth whose factory sounds sound good), it's much better (and cheaper) to utilise what you already have. Any DAW has a simple softsynth you can use, start reading the manual.
Making a sound "good"…"
Jun 15, 2015
Christopher John Ulrich Burke replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"Dear Spiros.
UGH - I know you're right in theory but I've been batting my head against LFOs/sine waves/square/triangle/saw waves for literally ages and I've never gotten anything out of a synth anywhere near as beautiful as the sounds I hear on…"
Jun 15, 2015
Spiros Makris replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"I'm not sure what "immune to EQ" means in practice. 
But the truth is, you don't need complicated tools or techniques to get those sounds-in fact, more complex stuff won't really do it. You want something that works on the background, ie, not that…"
Jun 14, 2015
Greg Brus replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"I just opened up Colossus and picked up some pads at random until I found something passably similar (it's called "Meditation Pad", duh :P), then tweaked it with EQ and added delay to fatten it up. The result is basically a clone of what you have in…"
Jun 14, 2015
Spiros Makris replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"it didn't post the file because it was too big. there you go.pad comparison1.mp3"
Jun 14, 2015
Spiros Makris replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"I made a small comparison for you. A simple chord progression, on 3 different plugins, using a stock preset on each one. on the first three I have tweaked nothing- just loaded the preset and played the same midi file. By order of appearance, Blade…"
Jun 14, 2015
Christopher John Ulrich Burke replied to Christopher John Ulrich Burke's discussion Best softsynth for New Age backing pad presets? See bodytext for details.
"Dear Spiros et al.

Doesn't have  to be EXACTLY those, but that kinda thing, that does the same kinda job, sounds nice behind lead sounds (like piano/flute etc.) filling out the mix a little, maybe just adding thickness to instruments that sound a…"
Jun 14, 2015
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  • Hi,

    Hows the progress going? :)

    I found great book about orchestration. You might want to look in to it.

    http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/096257/details.html

    All Best

    Mik

  • Hey,

    Firstly please don't think about yourself that you're stupid! You're not. It's only lack of knowladge we all have started with. With time you will gain it like everyone.

    And please don't use "posh" to express the quality. Because it's all about the second. you have either have good samples, avrege or bad :D

    For good DAW i advice you to get reaper It's a great daw and you can use it for free withought any limitations. And it's fairly simple.

    Now answering to your question:

    0-127 that's not a volume. That's velocity - the strength of playing.

    Track Volume in this case has got nothing to do with speakers volume. You have tracks volume and master volume. Try look up the mixer in the qse. As well in Edirol Orchestra I susspect there is build in mixer as with bandstand and there should be volume nobs.

    Ok hope that will get you closer to achiving your goal :)

    All Best

    Mik

  • Hey,

    I understand your pain wth lack of technical skills. I was the same and I still have a lot to learn.  But I've listened to your track. I think it's pretty good. Easly would fit in to jrpg game which is a good thing since those games always have most melodic and quality scores.Stop being so hard on yourself becfause that blocks you from letting all of your passion flow :D

    Thise are going to be mostly general advices.

    The production starts with the composition. If the composition has got badly arranged parts then producing it is a nightmare. I used to put loads of effects and eqs and spend hours upon hours trying to produce my stuff. Once I've realised that it was my composition which was badly arranged causeing the problem I've started to learn and improving my orchestration skills :D

    Now badly orchestrated part doesn't mean everything is terrible. It means that there might be a doubled note somewhere or note in the chord could be moved to other octave to make the instruments sound clearer.

    With better orchestration/arrangment i'm now only using convulsive reverb  and limiter and everything sounds great so far and i can focus on continuing learning about orchestration. You can write with convulsive reverb on and when you finish and you wat to volume up you can put the compression/limiter on.

    About your track. My first impression was that piano was to loud and it was distorting sound. Don't worry about the volume when you compose. Make sure nothing is to loud. I usualy set everything to -10 db.

    Secendly you need to work on setting better velocity. This is very importand. You have to use your orchestra as it would be a mixing table. Setting the right velocities will create richer sound because instruments sounds will not be overpowering another. It is difficult but once you start working on it you will figure it out.

    Don't add extra notes because this way will not make instruments sound reacher only muddled. If you want to bring up particular section just lower the velocity of other instruments and rise the instrument you want it to lead.

    Make sure that notes are not doubled within the octave, so for example try only have one C one E and one G in one octave and use other octaves for other sections. And make sure bass has got a lot of space to sound out. But to bring up you the lead you can double the main melody and/or play it in unisono.

    Read about the instruments and find out how they sound in different ranges.

    Have good monitor speakers or headphones.

    Should concider learning how to use ewql. Much better then edirol . Edirol sounds flat.

    Hopefuly this will help. Let me know if you have any more questions.

    Good luck and all best

    M

  • for some sounds there is free kontakt player with 600mb of samples and some more freebies http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/?category=1339 , so you could give it a shot if you don't have them yet they are oretty good. And cinesamples has got free libs http://cinesamples.com/retail/

  • Hey man,

    So sorry for such  late respond. I wasn't checking my page on here. Im not great at production although now im better then i used to be when i wrote pieces that are over here.

    There is few things first. I realised sometimes your instruments are to loud, so the first advice is to set all of the tracks to -10 db. You will make them louder later.

    In regards to everything else what sounds you're after?

    All Best

    Mik

  • Hi Ulrich!

    Thanks for your comments and advice. I will take this into account in the future and as you correctly point out I'm not a master in mixing.

    I wish you a good 2012

    BTW. The summer song was written as a knock-off of Percy Faith song for a TV show that wanted the same feeling

  • Amazing Works
  • Hello.  Just came on to say howdy.  Let's make our plan this week!  Are you game?

     

     Your friend from across the big pond,

    Martha Maria

    P.S.  Is the royal wedding a big deal over there?  Kate looks like a sweet girl.  I'm not particularly interested in the royal anything, but I hope that Kate isn't devoured the way poor Diana was.  

  • Hi There, I'm going to sleep very well!!!!  This little piece reminds me of those sweet summer days when the ice cream truck came around and Mother always gave us a quarter to buy a brown cow.  

    Sorry, I haven't checked in more lately.  I've been very busy, getting my new label off the ground.  It's Dogwood Daughter, a site just for Christian music.  It's daunting and scary to launch a new project.  

    I was wondering how your new job is working out?  Write me a quick e-mail. I still haven't given up on your radio idea....I've just been preoccupied with other projects.  

    I love this section of your piece.....the flute solo in the middle. Your music has a gentle sweetness.  Now I'm listening to the Oriental One.  The plucked sound reminds me of a hammered dulcimer.  I used to play those quite a lot.  But the digital world has ruined me for anything that needs to be tuned...I've gotten very lazy.  

    Drop me an e-mail when you get the time.

    Now, I'm going to sleep.  Good night, Christopher.  Martha 

  • hi Christopher, sorry for answering late

    I suggest you to fix any latency matters, and to compose while listening to the loop beeing played. Never compose deaf on piano roll, you should always listen to the result. some instrument has less attack and you would have to move the note a millimiter before... but what you can do is just type on a keyboard the rythmic pattern and only after move the notes on the desires pitch. Anyway a clear idea of the rythm (which is the difficult thing on piano roll) is important to trasform a "time" idea  in a visual one.  Another fundamental thing is trying to set the right quantize for any piece... i think almost every rhythm is quantizable. also, for me, listening to american minimalistic is a huge font of inspiration, they seem to compose on piano roll, of curse they are not, but they develop useful ideas for computer composers.

    I hope i told you useful things

    ric

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