Russell Sansom replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Extremely Simple Cannon (Maybe...)
"well, i really loved it.  Don't know if it's just the time of year, but i was picturing a very sweet dance/ballet in my head as i listened to it.  I'd leave it as it is and not risk complicating it.  Sure, if Rachmaninov's reincarnated self where to…"
Nov 12, 2011
Chris Rodier replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Extremely Simple Cannon (Maybe...)
"I like your idea Frederick of making similar cannons. I am expirimenting with using themes from the piece to produce a christmas piece (something i've always wanted to try) mostly because the melody reminds me of a church hymn :)
 
If that doesn't…"
Nov 11, 2011
Marco replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Extremely Simple Cannon (Maybe...)
"!!! canons must be in perfect counterpoint u make many mistake, in melodic figures, 8ve!! some 5e, which in ancient counterp. are errors...in any style are ingenuous. try to listen the same thing with 2fl, ob, cl, basson  and horn... u can listen…"
Nov 7, 2011
Chris Rodier replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Extremely Simple Cannon (Maybe...)
"The sense i got from his comment was that he agreed with you :) And i do too. I will take a look at expanding on this theme if i can. Maybe incorporate it as a larger  Noël / Alleluia - which i've never gotten to do. An i dea based on all of your…"
Nov 7, 2011
Jon Brantingham replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Learning Forms - Any Tips?
"Hey,
I applaud you on deciding to study form. I think it is one of the most overlooked things by people learning to compose nowadays.
 
I have been deep into the study of form recently and specifically classical form. One of the things I have found…"
Oct 17, 2011
Marco replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Learning Forms - Any Tips?
"hi  If i understand you, you search for a book (or recources in general) of musical forms or a tips on how you could begin to study it.
maybe i can't help u so much but I'll try it ... 
 
i d like to give you a complete panoramic of my study in…"
Oct 17, 2011
VJTunes replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Learning Forms - Any Tips?
"Great post, exactly on the topic of info I've been trying to learn. I've been trying to learn a bit about song structure on google and all I've came up with sites that tell me  things like , intro,chorus,melody etc etc.. This vid shows how you can…"
Oct 16, 2011
Tyler Hughes replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Learning Forms - Any Tips?
"Lucky for you, we live in the internet age and learning the basics of form has never been better. Here are some links that can help:
First video is one of my undergraduate piano professor talking about form. (Note; he talks about a book you might…"
Oct 10, 2011
SEDstar replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"Hmmm...
 
its all so personal. And everyones a critic! Heck, we all know if we like it or not...
 
now, this quote from above:
 
"If you will construct your sonata with tonal contrast between first and second theme this is totally obsolete,…"
Aug 24, 2011
SEDstar replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"this is a hobby, as no one would PAY me, lol...
 
yet for what its worth to ME, iit took me a while to realize, when starting from scratch... that maybe "half" of what I really liked t listen to, seemed to be in pentatonic minor.
 
do I mean that…"
Aug 24, 2011
Vlad Burlea replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"Let me to explain : 
-composition in music is a complex activity with a lot of components requiring theoretical and practical knowledge, not "rules" - knowledge, that help you to realize your idea. In a 3-4 min. composition, no problem, is easy to…"
Jul 26, 2011
Steve Campagnoli replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"SpyrusTV-
In there we can fit all sorts of things, we can change it and bend it to our liking.
 
ie.  Make it your own.
Campy"
Jul 26, 2011
So Hyun Jung replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"Hi!!
 
I don't know what is the problem with writing in certain forms. If you like to do that, do it!! If not, don't. Anyway I hear a lot of different music, in different styles. Some very modern, some very old. Is that a problem? To me it seems…"
Jul 26, 2011
Tombo Rombo replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"Lots of "have tos" in there.  Have to in order to do what exactly?Vlad Burlea said:
First of all we have to devise forms in two categories: 1.generals form as mono, binary and ternary (associated with all subcategories) and 2. forms related to…"
Jul 26, 2011
Spiros Makris replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"But what limits us to take the sonata form, and change something? Sure, it will not be the form laid down by beethoven, but we can do whatever we want. It's our music after all. In fact, in all musical history, that's how things progressed. Someone…"
Jul 25, 2011
Vlad Burlea replied to Chris Rodier's discussion Composition Patterns
"First of all we have to devise forms in two categories: 1.generals form as mono, binary and ternary (associated with all subcategories) and 2. forms related to historical periods: fugue, rondo, sonata, variations. First category you can "use"…"
Jul 25, 2011
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  • Beautiful music.  I'm not very well versed into using percussion yet but admire those that can accomplish what you did with week 1.  The piece is is very melodic, flowing and energetic.  Isole reminds me of Aaron Coplands writing for Appalachian Spring not the melodies but the textures.  Very nice.
  • Sure. I use Finale as well.  I'm not very advanced with it at the moment, but I've managed to notate most of my symphony so far.  This is the second movement:

     

    http://www.box.net/shared/ijo0mhtp30

     

    The above example demonstrates about as much as I know of Finale, and I'm pretty sure that I've not even used a quarter of the programme so far.

     

    But sure, ask me.  I'll do my best.

  • Thanks.  If you want any help with advice on harmony or orchestration, give me a buzz.
  • Thanks for the add Chris.  When I have time, I'll take a listen to your music.  Meanwhile, feel free to listen to mine.  I'd be interested to know what you think of it.
  • Thanks alot, i had no idea that saves me alot of work!
  • Thanks for the heads-up Chris - I'm off to listen now.
  • Hi Chris., I apologize for not getting back to you sooner.. I have been struggling with personal yuk since the summer and now am in full swing preparing for my concert at Lincoln Center. I WILL listen to your music as soon as I can have the time AND the quiet to be able to pay good attention. Right now I'm going crazy....Please forgive the delay...I really am crazy. ;o]
  • Hi Chris
    I left a long and hopefully helpful comment about your March but it got deleted along with my profile. I'm not sure whether you got a chance to read it - if not, I'd be happy to pm my comments to you. I really enjoyed it by the way.
  • On your desktop. You must be a youngun. I, on the other hand am an admitted techno challenged dinosaur and still write on yellow lined legal pads with pencils. My 'files' are stashed in ancient paper folders. Now, THAT might be a project to attempt when "Merry Christmas, New York City!" is over: Converting all those hundreds of scraps into word. Then again, maybe not... ;o)
  • Two years ago I had a successful Nashville songwriter, Pierce Pettis, give an all day songwriting workshop at our annual CAM conference. It was awe inspiring; even the most seasoned among us learned numerous new things. One of the interesting things he said was that nearly every composer he ever met has a giant folder and sometimes boxloads of unfinished songs...sometimes only one line or snippets of something that moved him/her. I have 2 fat folders of scraps of paper, napkins from restaurants, looseleaf (do they still make loosleaf?) ... etc., etc., etc....I believe we'll finish a piece when the time is right to do so. I bet you have one of those folders or some other receptacle. Maybe today is the day to open it and see if anything jumps out at you to work on! Now that I'm talking about them, I wish I could get into my folders but for the next 3 months I do nothing but work on a Christmas show I produce in NY...Blinders go on and I'm in offcial show mode! No writing, no nuthin' but Christmas, Christmas, Christmas! ><>
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