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  • Bob, I have windows and it just loaded normally...

    try a reboot  ???   maybe that'll work     RS

  • Peter, be it insidious or just playfully arrogant, it gets old fast.

    Not to mention longwinded .

    I was reminded of that Clinton ploy, it depends on what you mean by 'it'.

    I won't post the hyperlink for fear of starting something with the mockers,

    but if you have the time,  go to You Tube and find SGT Report.

    Today, Sean featured an interview with Anita Whitney that puts in 'well defined'

    terms and words what we are really up against and the 'boogieman' that doesn't exist.

    (especially around 16 to 20 min. and the last few minutes)    RS    

    ps- it truly defines the word insidious  

  • So this is what's become of Composers' Forum, eh?

    Imagine how much more music could be written in the time wasted typing back and forth on subjects that have little do with composing music.

  • @Richard: happily, that only seems to happen in threads of little relevance to composing. I've been steering clear of those topics and it's done me wonders. Actually got much more composing done than when I have to keep thinking of the latest clever way to win another pointless argument.

  • Isn't Facebook for drivel? :)

  • Permit me to address these and similar comments about what people supposedly SHOULD write about on Composers' Forum.

     

    Reply by Richard T. Hill 1 hour ago

    So this is what's become of Composers' Forum, eh?

     

    Imagine how much more music could be written in the time wasted typing back and forth on subjects that have little do with composing music.

     

    And:

     

    Reply by H. S. Teoh 52 minutes ago

     

    @Richard: happily, that only seems to happen in threads of little relevance to composing. I've been steering clear of those topics and it's done me wonders. Actually got much more composing done than when I have to keep thinking of the latest clever way to win another pointless argument.

     

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    Making this kind of point might be considered just a little bit silly, if we consider music history.   Would you tell Wagner, Mahler, Beethoven, Shostakovich and countless other well-known composers that they shouldn't have written all the letters they did (letters much longer and far more detailed than any of the posts we see here) about such issues as philosophy, ethics, political thought, the destiny of man, God, metaphysical speculation, the nature of space and time, Borodin's drinking habits, Tchaikovsky's sexual orientation, etc. etc. etc?    I wonder how many have looked at books of letters written by Beethoven, Mahler, and ESPECIALLY Wagner.  Volumes upon volumes by the last one.  (And you know:  he actually thought about philosophy, read and praised Schopenhauer, took copies into the public baths and read them out loud to his friends, and discussed the IDEAS).

     

    If people are really that worried about "how others spend their time," perhaps they shouldn't write anything on Composers Forum; or they shouldn't write words anyway.   If people think time is being wasted, then they shouldn't waste time writing anything but music. 

    I for one, believe:

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    [And if you are reasonably strict yourself, you shouldn't write about music itself, or ever comment upon the pieces, because writing about music has nothing to do with the actual composition of music, and occupies an entirely different part of the mind].

     

    Now, if you like, you can put your hand on the Bible, and respond:

     

    Do promise to put your thoughts wholly into music and NOTHING but the music, so help you God???!!!!

     

    Now, you can swear, if you wish to:

     

    I DO, SO HELP ME GOD!

     

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    Or you can simply say, I know exactly what people should and should not talk about, and make a list of subjects which are definitely relevant, and not relevant to "musical composition."  

     

    H.S. said,

     

    @Richard: happily, that only seems to happen in threads of little relevance to composing. I've been steering clear of those topics and it's done me wonders. Actually got much more composing done than when I have to keep thinking of the latest clever way to win another pointless argument.

     

    H.S. Thou dost protest too much, perhaps.  I have seen many people (I think you might have been one of them, if you don't mind my saying so) chatting away about all sorts of supposedly irrelevant things in the chat box, including nuclear physics, cosmology, mathematics, artificial intelligence, just to list a few. 

     

    Let's at least be consistent.

     

    Now I say, it can be good for a composer to discuss nuclear physics, cosmology, mathematics, artificial intelligence.

     

    But if people feel they have to spend inordinate amounts of time "thinking of the latest clever way to win another pointless argument ..."  (I mean, isn't this what all of us do, in the shower, while driving to work, in the midst of a conversation with friends and family ...), then maybe we should stop frequenting the Composers Forum all together. 

     

    Or if you enjoy that sort of thing, then why not do it?

     

    What amazes me most of all is when (on a forum, a place where people are supposed to talk) this happens:  People are told, it's bad to be on a forum.  They are told it's bad to talk.   People should only compose.  (Forgetting that all composers, worthy of the name, have talked, and gone to places where they could talk; forgetting that all composers have written letters, and felt it was a good thing to write down their thoughts in a letter, on numerous occasions, on a wide variety of topics).  I sometimes get the impression that people have not even read Titus Livius, or anything similar to the works of that great historian, and so they have no idea what the word "forum" really means, or what the origin of the concept is, much less what people discussed for literally 500 years, in the Roman Forum, when Rome was a representative Republic.   

     

    Perhaps we should establish and open COMPOSERS NON-FORUM, where people don't talk, don't exchange ideas, don't think, don't engage in any dialectical reasoning whatsoever, or in any kind of public discourse.

     

    Oops.  I just pet my dog for 15 seconds.  I hope no one who is serious about composition does that.  It might distract you from your work. 

     

     

     

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  • Peter said,

    "I'm a fan of the Keiser Report. Max is a little off the wall with bitcoin, but Stacy has her finger on the pulse of what's going on with the world economy, banksters, fraud etc.."

    I watch the Keiser Report now and again myself, and enjoy it.  I agree with your assessment.

    There aren't many economist/financial expert/comedians on TV, so it goes without saying he's the best in that arena.  His insights are, I think, closer to the truth than what you get on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, National Public TV, the BBC, and most standard financial  and business TV shows.

  • Richard, they've moved.... go to www. Wynn St. and make a left, then proceed

    until you find the 3 yodeling bartenders; the one in the middle can point the way

    from there.
     
    Richard T. Hill said:

    So this is what's become of Composers' Forum, eh?

    Imagine how much more music could be written in the time wasted typing back and forth on subjects that have little do with composing music.

  • Dave, I'm curious, why I am obligated to respond to what you are saying and how I might be 'deflecting'

    because I don't see your words to be worthy of a response?      Isn't this ironic?

    do you recognize a difference between action and re-action?    

    You say you find my lack of response to your post, of greater interest... Why?

    That seems a bit demented and bordering the perverse.

    As for 'witless drivel', The false corporate based gov'mt which started just after

    the Civil War, has been slowly taking over this country and now 'they' control

    the grants to the Arts( there are not many people that understand the breadth and

    depths of this drivel, but the Facts are actually well documented- albeit hidden,)

    without your even knowing it, you are a stock option. When your parents signed

    your birth certificate, the hospital got money and you were owned. And your earnings

    potential is traded. And the legal system is all about supporting this Corporate Entity.

    Is that drivel to you? Take a few minutes and do a little research and you will soon

    see that this is not a conspiracy of drool and drivel.

    If you'd like to purchase a 'tin hat' I'm selling them at a special discount to all composers.  RS


     
    Dave Dexter said:

    I made no mention of the veracity or relevance. I just found it funny you did the very thing you were annoyed at having done to you. And for something or no relevance or consequence, it sure did get to you.

    Actually, I'm a composer. But when there's so many, many foibles on display, how could I resist, right?

    You don't actually have control over whatever you think the "real" discussion is, and the one I'm having, or at least failing to have because you're deflecting, is of far greater interest.

    roger stancill said:

    But Dave ... You fail to understand that someone attempting to belittle me is

    totally irrelevant and of no real consequence. Just because someone may use that 'tactic'

    does not mean that it is true or effective. This is not an ego trip. (tho' I do think there is something to be said for

    fighting fire with fire)

    so you are a watcher... delighting in the foibles of other humans.... everyone needs a hobby.     RS

    ps- feel free to participate in the real discussion

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  • So Fred, are you saying you get your investment tips from the wino in the

    alley behind the Taco Bell there in downtown San Diego..... ha   that is funny!

    80 proof is certaintly a better bet than the info you may be offered by someone

    who is 'in the field'. ( the whole thing IS a crap shoot)

    The function of 'mainstream media' information is to reassure the consumer that the

    lies he/she has been fed are still alive and doing very well.   RS
     
    Fredrick zinos said:

    "legit info"

    a contradiction in terms. How can something be informative and legitimate at the same time? The function of information is to reassure the consumer that he is reading "the truth" and in so doing has elevated him/herself above the herd of humanity who remain unenlightened.

    Frankly, I crave information that is illegitimate because at least it has a chance of being funny. And that, I am sure we all agree, is the real purpose of life.

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