Talk about VSL service!

Once again I have only praise for it.

When I had a query with Spitfire it took over a week to get a reply.

Last night a VSL update was messed up. The host software seemed to be lost. It brought me to a standstill. I emailed VSL support with such details as I could hoping for a reply today.

Anyway it seems that a couple of Windows programs had got lost. Ha! Not being a technical person I couldn't have worked that out by myself. None of the error messages gave a clue. But VSL did and directed me to the MS site to download them and suggested I re-did the update.

Everything's working again fine.

Point is, I wrote at 6pm. The reply came back at 7.15pm.

Not the first time this has happened. 

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  • Hi Dane, it's good to hear that VSL is responsive.  I must say that the download and installation process is a bit complex although I haven't had to ask for their help. Yet.

    I see they are having a sale on Bosendorfer, VI instruments and a new MIR stage.  Also mentioned is a template for Dorico. I don't know if that is new but it supposedly loads all articulations from the notation into a DAW if I understand correctly which is questionable, but interesting.

    Here is an article on how Dorico handles 'freely metered music' which may be helpful for your composing technique.

    https://www.scoringnotes.com/tutorials/creating-freely-metered-musi...

    I know that Sibelius and MuseScore also have ways of hiding bar lines as well.

    Creating freely metered music in Dorico - Scoring Notes
    In this post, conductor and composer Claude Lapalme shows you how he composed a meter-less segment of a movement of a chamber orchestra work in Doric…
  • Ingo, that is one useful piece of information, the best that's come my way about notation software. Thank you indeed.

    So Dorico makes all this possible? I've marked it 'favourite' and it's as good as made my choice. I often wondered how other programs handle things like cadenza passages.

    The only problem I have with VSL's piano sampling is the vast size it needs. As Bosendorfers are wired for midi it makes sense for them to sample what? every velocity? But you'll probably need a mainframe to run it! Maybe a real instrument would take up less room than the disk drives. No, seriously....but 174Gb - 143,000 samples, sheesh! Lovely sound. Among the demos, whoever's playing that Study 5 Op 10 of Chopin's is a crack pianist! Unless it was speeded up a bit.

    I'm now stuck. I need bigger drives to buy anything else. My existing pair (live + backup) are as good as full.

    Again, thanks.

    Ingo Lee said:

    Hi Dane, it's good to hear that VSL is responsive.  I must say that the download and installation process is a bit complex although I haven't had to ask for their help. Yet.

    I see they are having a sale on Bosendorfer, VI instruments and a new MIR stage.  Also mentioned is a template for Dorico. I don't know if that is new but it supposedly loads all articulations from the notation into a DAW if I understand correctly which is questionable, but interesting.

    Here is an article on how Dorico handles 'freely metered music' which may be helpful for your composing technique.

    https://www.scoringnotes.com/tutorials/creating-freely-metered-musi...

    I know that Sibelius and MuseScore also have ways of hiding bar lines as well.

    Talk about VSL service!
    Once again I have only praise for it. When I had a query with Spitfire it took over a week to get a reply. Last night a VSL update was messed up. The…
  • Michael, yes, they know how to keep customers. I sent another note to thank them for their fast response and spotting the trouble dead-on, expecting that was that. But no, they replied, glad to hear that everything was working again, stay safe and feel free to contact us if you run into any more trouble. 

    I know what you mean about the forum. You described it exactly. I've posted three enquiries. Two were answered by VSL staff; the third not and it was as if member superiority was an excuse to make me look foolish for asking. 

    Thankfully this forum isn't like that.

    People can be prima-donna-ish. I met a snooty session guitarist at a club. I wondered why he was somewhat aloof when another member of the outfit said, "Well, he can read music." Bully for him!



    michael diemer said:

    They're good if you contact support directly, yes. I've had some less than pleasant experiences from the forum, however, from questions which never received even one reply, to outright flippant remarks. Like many such forums, there is an element of cliquish-ness there. I've never really felt I belonged there. With the Cakewalk forum, the problem is still cliquish-ness, but of a different variety. Once they know you are classically oriented, you quickly get relegated to the "outsider" category. Cakewalk users for the most part are not classically oriented. I suspect  they secretly consider classical-types as stuffy and pretentious. It's subtle, but it's there.

    Try saying "cliquish-ness several times in a row. Bet you can't do it.

    Talk about VSL service!
    Once again I have only praise for it. When I had a query with Spitfire it took over a week to get a reply. Last night a VSL update was messed up. The…
  • Hey Dane, l was looking at the VSL site to try and understand how the Dorico template works. As far as I can tell the template is to be installed in Dorico with use for certain soundsets; not all VSL libraries. Dorico does have a piano roll view it looks like though.  Sibelius doesn't have that although it can play some VSL soundsets. This is just my impression, I haven't experimented with any of this. As far as I know none of the major notation softwares connect directly to a DAW without 3rd party interfaces.

  • Hey Ingo...

    At least the sun is shining here - for a few mos at least!

    I've only encountered templates through Reaper. It comes without any so I set a few "standards" up along with instruments, like a string quartet, chamber orchestra. 

    "VSL have created some Dorico playback templates for all the volumes so that you can quickly and easily start using them with Dorico, either by choosing them at any time from the Play > Playback Templates menu or even making it your default playback template from the Dorico Preferences menu."

    They seem to be about the Synchron series. I don't have Synchron so I haven't given much thought and I work the other way around - daw to Dorico (if I buy it). What will Dorico make of things sent from Reaper? Musescore didn't receive them easily so if I stuck with that I have quite a learning curve. Probably same with Dorico. I'm unusual, not wanting sounds in the notation software. What "Halion" sound like I haven't a clue. Maybe useful to proof read but then they'd be muted. I don't even know if a moving score can be embedded, like, here. 

    Looks like the subject intrigues me as much as you. What seems the case is one can set up 'custom' templates in Dorico - which would be my preferred way. A nuisance when you want to get on with composing but one off, nothing like that of preparing each score sheet with clefs, instruments (and for those who write ancient music, key signatures!)! 

    Apropos an earlier comment, I found more about opening a Dorico project with no time signature along with many other options:

    https://steinberg.help/dorico/v2/en/dorico/topics/notation_referenc...

    No doubt we'll have more chat about these things.



    Ingo Lee said:

    Hey Dane, l was looking at the VSL site to try and understand how the Dorico template works. As far as I can tell the template is to be installed in Dorico with use for certain soundsets; not all VSL libraries. Dorico does have a piano roll view it looks like though.  Sibelius doesn't have that although it can play some VSL soundsets. This is just my impression, I haven't experimented with any of this. As far as I know none of the major notation softwares connect directly to a DAW without 3rd party interfaces.

    Types of time signatures
    There are different types of time signatures, which can indicate various and complex meters.
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