String Qt 2nd movement.

Hello there.

I've engraved the score now and having a couple of scores+parts printed so that if I find possible artists I can send it off. It's taken a lot of sweat and aspirins to get this ruddy notation software to do what I want and I'm fed up with it.

The point is it needs to be supported by a decent audio file.

If you have a few moments please could you comment on the quality of mock up? Truly appreciated if you can as this will be what recipients get.

And please comment on the score if you're of a mind - good or bad.

Many thanks

string qt mvt2 ver b 210421.mp3

01 - String Quartet 1 - a str qtet 1-1-2-3 210421score a - Two.pdf

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  • Hi Dane,

    2nd movement of a string Qt. Sometimes it reminded me of Berg immediately.

    What I liked most is: The balance between single melodic lines and use of 'chords'...

    Dissonance does not hurt.

    I had to stop listening it once due to my mom's needs.  Sorry, I can not study it more.

    But I will sometime later.

    Rendering did not bother me at all.  If it is going to be performed by a real quartet they will

    do it anyway.  By the way, I missed the harsh sounds of bows.

    Thank  you very much for sharing the score...  One more point before I go:

    The texture is so clear that even I can hear the pitches without reading the score,

    of course checking  later on.

    I appreciate the score very much.

    All the best of good luck for a live performance.

    Hope you will be able to charge them some if any.

    Al

  • Your mock up is well done Dane, the sounds are clear and accurate and it seems to follow the score quite well to my eye.  I enjoyed the piece itself; to me it very expressively reflects a melancholy soliloquy, and as Ali says the dissonance blends smoothly.

    The score is well laid out and easily readable. There are many dynamic markings and hairpins but they don't all seem to be followed consistently by the mock up.  Many of the hairpins don't have a target volume but they do indicate your intention. The placement of page numbers is somewhat inconsistent but not a problem really. I assume the asterisks indicate a portamento? There is a dynamic 'n' at measure 155 of the 1st violin that I am not familiar with.

    Can you tell us which notation software this is?  I hope you are able to get a performance of this work, I would very much enjoy hearing that.

  • Hi, Ali,

    Thank you for listening and your astute comments. Yes, this is one of the thinnest textured piece I wrote at the time. The rest of the quartet is noisier and has many more deliberate dissonances. It's always been a problem with me: I don't 'think' dissonance and consonance except at extreme dissonance. 

    If I write contrapuntal phrases (imitative or otherwise) they...well, they happen, and I may have to adjust notes here and there to avoid or emphasise harshness. I did study CPP theory up to Kitson Part 3 but the passing days take me further away from it.

    Once more, thank you for your interest and encouragement.

    keep well,

    Dane

    Ali Riza SARAL said:

    Hi Dane,

    2nd movement of a string Qt. Sometimes it reminded me of Berg immediately.

    What I liked most is: The balance between single melodic lines and use of 'chords'...

    Dissonance does not hurt.

    I had to stop listening it once due to my mom's needs.  Sorry, I can not study it more.

    But I will sometime later.

    Rendering did not bother me at all.  If it is going to be performed by a real quartet they will

    do it anyway.  By the way, I missed the harsh sounds of bows.

    Thank  you very much for sharing the score...  One more point before I go:

    The texture is so clear that even I can hear the pitches without reading the score,

    of course checking  later on.

    I appreciate the score very much.

    All the best of good luck for a live performance.

    Hope you will be able to charge them some if any.

    Al

    String Qt 2nd movement.
    Hello there. I've engraved the score now and having a couple of scores+parts printed so that if I find possible artists I can send it off. It's taken…
  • Ingo, hi there,

    Thank you so much for your encouragement and generous comments and the time you've spent on this.

    You've certainly made some valuable comments about the score and warned me of habits I need to break like putting in the target dynamics. On reflection it isn't enough to cresc then dim a bar later without saying what should happen between. It's meant to be "just a shade" but the player isn't going to know that. That will be remedied.

    Page numbers. This is one of the failings of the notation programming. I lifted this movement from the full quartet which seems to be paginated correctly. Why it's been treated as a separate entity for pagination I don't know. Perhaps it expected me to set it up as a separate "project".

    The engraving seems very nice - but the program has flaws. If I edit something, like increase the space between two staves, it can mess up other things elsewhere so it's an iterative process. Another thing is is parsing an xml file is prone to failure; something it can't understand so it gives up on that instrumental line. I check back on what I sent and there seems nothing unlikely to cause error. That means having to chop the original midi a bar later and send it a partial file so I can copy the missing bits in....all things that add up to frustration.

    Yesterday it refused to receive a file. "Fatal error". I went on the forum. Seems an & sign is prohibited, to do with programming. So my "Horns 1 & 3" fouled it up at the start. There's nothing in the manual about that. No doubt there'll  be other sins!

    The n thing stands for niente, dimming down to nothing. I used to put a zero at the end of the hairpin but the software allows 'n' as an option so I gave it a whirl. 

    I haven't tried it for composing yet but those problems have forced me to learn about note input - oh, and to its credit it does tuples very well! I think you can guess the program I'm using. I'm glad I didn't have to pay full price myself!

    Anyway, thanks again, Ingo.

    All the best, Dane. 



    Ingo Lee said:

    Your mock up is well done Dane, the sounds are clear and accurate and it seems to follow the score quite well to my eye.  I enjoyed the piece itself; to me it very expressively reflects a melancholy soliloquy, and as Ali says the dissonance blends smoothly.

    The score is well laid out and easily readable. There are many dynamic markings and hairpins but they don't all seem to be followed consistently by the mock up.  Many of the hairpins don't have a target volume but they do indicate your intention. The placement of page numbers is somewhat inconsistent but not a problem really. I assume the asterisks indicate a portamento? There is a dynamic 'n' at measure 155 of the 1st violin that I am not familiar with.

    Can you tell us which notation software this is?  I hope you are able to get a performance of this work, I would very much enjoy hearing that.

    String Qt 2nd movement.
    Hello there. I've engraved the score now and having a couple of scores+parts printed so that if I find possible artists I can send it off. It's taken…
  • Test post, ignore

  • Which ruddy notation software are you referring to?

  • Hi Dane

    Just listened to this - catching up on stuff that I've missed. It's an impressive piece, no doubt. Certainly deserving of a performance by a good quartet. Words like "stark", "lunar", "austere" & "desolate" spring to mind when I'm listening to it. 

    As a mockup I think it sounds pretty good, the string samples actually sound pretty accurate to my ears. 

    Great work, Colin

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