Am I really the only one who composes rock music? i have found at most 2 songs one hear that are some sort of rock. the rest are orchestral. I'm not saying orchestral is bad but I'm saying be different.
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I like to hear... "mastery". IE, the performer has MASTERED their instrument.
when i hear Laura Branigan (RIP) sing? i hear a woman with a gifted voice, and she seems to have mastered her voice and uses it like an instrument.
when i hear old vintage Queensryche? i definitely hear (or feel, maybe) something "classical" in it...
its all personal, but... when i hear "punk" or punk based stuff? I get the idea i am hearing the music equivalent of children on a playground saying "nyah nyah nyah NAHHHHH nyah..." over and over again.
when i buy a CD ? i like to hear something... that... how do i PUT it ?? this is supposed to be professional musicians i am paying to hear? i expect something "more" than the teenagers down the street can learn to "cover" most of the CD's songs in a weekend drinking beer and have only learned to play for a year or so...
i like to buy something to listen to, that i get a sense that serious professionals made it, and i shouldnt hear every band at the local bar "cover" it... the local band at the bar should be scared of all the work it would BE to cover it...
Hi Aaron I'm brand new hear and an amateur composer , If I were you I wouldn't get caught up in labels Use this forum to learn Could you do something different in rock from the others by using really unusual chords or a high level of modulation . If you develop your craft until your're satisfied with your work that is what counts and I'd be interested to hear what you've done ., As a famous jass composer once said " I only listen to one kind of music good music
Writing for rock groups is worth talking about, responding to "Aaron" is not. Come to think about it though, I think I've written for rock band more than orchestra these last few years.
An old thread, sure, but still an interesting topic.
I'd imagine there are probably quite a few of us here that compose rock. I do rock, jazz, country, hybrid, electronic, industrial, weird goth-y stuff that i don't even know how to classify, even started a rap project with a local rapper. Life's too short for one style of music.
As far as looking down on punk, well, this is a polite forum so i'll try to contribute appropriately. I will concede that there is a lot of bad punk rock floating around. Always has been, always will be. Even some of the more famous punk bands are not good musicians at all, but that's not the entire genre. It's just a much more raw and emotion driven style. If you don't feel it, you don't, and that's fine. Not all things have to speak to all people. I think if it were a painting style it would be along the lines of cubism is or something similar. An outsider could easily call it simple on a technical level, but that doesn't make it a lesser form of art.
Although i will admit, the hardest part of being in a punk band is the conditioning. Gallup strumming for an hour long set can take a bit out of you.
Crap, man, I'm old enough to remember when Oingo Boingo was considered punk/new wave... and we know who came out of that group, right? That's right, our old lesbian, himself, lol. And you are so right about the conditioning thing, and not just for the guitarists... 250 quarters per minute going bap BAP bap BAP bap BAP (kick drum on every quarter...) on the drums will wear you out.
Chris Carman said:
An old thread, sure, but still an interesting topic.
I'd imagine there are probably quite a few of us here that compose rock. I do rock, jazz, country, hybrid, electronic, industrial, weird goth-y stuff that i don't even know how to classify, even started a rap project with a local rapper. Life's too short for one style of music.
As far as looking down on punk, well, this is a polite forum so i'll try to contribute appropriately. I will concede that there is a lot of bad punk rock floating around. Always has been, always will be. Even some of the more famous punk bands are not good musicians at all, but that's not the entire genre. It's just a much more raw and emotion driven style. If you don't feel it, you don't, and that's fine. Not all things have to speak to all people. I think if it were a painting style it would be along the lines of cubism is or something similar. An outsider could easily call it simple on a technical level, but that doesn't make it a lesser form of art.
Although i will admit, the hardest part of being in a punk band is the conditioning. Gallup strumming for an hour long set can take a bit out of you.
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Am I really the only one who composes rock music? i have found at most 2 songs one hear that are some sort of rock. the rest are orchestral. I'm not…
Orchestral and Rock are certainly not self-excluding. Random example: Uematsu Nobuo's main influence for One Winged Angel (certainly one of the more memorable Final Fantasy compositions) was Jimmy Hendrix's Purple Haze. And it does look like they're having great fun on stage!
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I like to hear... "mastery". IE, the performer has MASTERED their instrument.
when i hear Laura Branigan (RIP) sing? i hear a woman with a gifted voice, and she seems to have mastered her voice and uses it like an instrument.
when i hear old vintage Queensryche? i definitely hear (or feel, maybe) something "classical" in it...
its all personal, but... when i hear "punk" or punk based stuff? I get the idea i am hearing the music equivalent of children on a playground saying "nyah nyah nyah NAHHHHH nyah..." over and over again.
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when i buy a CD ? i like to hear something... that... how do i PUT it ?? this is supposed to be professional musicians i am paying to hear? i expect something "more" than the teenagers down the street can learn to "cover" most of the CD's songs in a weekend drinking beer and have only learned to play for a year or so...
i like to buy something to listen to, that i get a sense that serious professionals made it, and i shouldnt hear every band at the local bar "cover" it... the local band at the bar should be scared of all the work it would BE to cover it...
Hi Aaron I'm brand new hear and an amateur composer , If I were you I wouldn't get caught up in labels Use this forum to learn Could you do something different in rock from the others by using really unusual chords or a high level of modulation . If you develop your craft until your're satisfied with your work that is what counts and I'd be interested to hear what you've done ., As a famous jass composer once said " I only listen to one kind of music good music
Regards Bob Forrest
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Regards Bob Forrest
Rodney Carlyle Money said:
An old thread, sure, but still an interesting topic.
I'd imagine there are probably quite a few of us here that compose rock. I do rock, jazz, country, hybrid, electronic, industrial, weird goth-y stuff that i don't even know how to classify, even started a rap project with a local rapper. Life's too short for one style of music.
As far as looking down on punk, well, this is a polite forum so i'll try to contribute appropriately. I will concede that there is a lot of bad punk rock floating around. Always has been, always will be. Even some of the more famous punk bands are not good musicians at all, but that's not the entire genre. It's just a much more raw and emotion driven style. If you don't feel it, you don't, and that's fine. Not all things have to speak to all people. I think if it were a painting style it would be along the lines of cubism is or something similar. An outsider could easily call it simple on a technical level, but that doesn't make it a lesser form of art.
Although i will admit, the hardest part of being in a punk band is the conditioning. Gallup strumming for an hour long set can take a bit out of you.
Crap, man, I'm old enough to remember when Oingo Boingo was considered punk/new wave... and we know who came out of that group, right? That's right, our old lesbian, himself, lol. And you are so right about the conditioning thing, and not just for the guitarists... 250 quarters per minute going bap BAP bap BAP bap BAP (kick drum on every quarter...) on the drums will wear you out.
Chris Carman said:
Orchestral and Rock are certainly not self-excluding. Random example: Uematsu Nobuo's main influence for One Winged Angel (certainly one of the more memorable Final Fantasy compositions) was Jimmy Hendrix's Purple Haze. And it does look like they're having great fun on stage!
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