Hey,

Unlike my past projects, my next score will be live recorded by an orchestra. As normal, I will write and record everything electronically, but then it will be charted and given to live musicians to play and the results will be what is heard in the movie.

I am very excited and this is new for me. However, my main question is regarding the size of the orchestra needed. 

The budget for the orchestra, recording, venue, engineer etc. is about $40,000 american. But we will not be utilizing a full 90 piece symphonic orchestra due to costs. What number of musicians do you think will suffice, to get the quality live sound? We will have strings, some brass, wind and piano. Percussion i am on the fence. But mainly, I want to have a solid string presence. 

Any help would be appreciated. I'm trying to put together a quality group of 20-30. Is that too small?

Does anybody have an idea of a good numerical breakdown for what instruments and how many of each section?

Ex. ____ violins, ______ viola, ___ cello, ____ flutes, _____ clarinets. 

Again, I am thinking about putting most into strings and then having 1 or 2 of other instruments that will at times carry leads, like oboe etc.

Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

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  • Stuff along the lines of this...

    http://youtu.be/xFYPclNvfiY

    Sweeping violins. Solo instruments. It's a drama without action scenes.
  • Stuff along the lines of this...

    http://youtu.be/xFYPclNvfiY

    Sweeping violins. Solo instruments. It's a drama without action scenes.
  • 1st violins 8, 2nd violins 6, violas 5, celli 5, basses 5, then you can have soloist woodwinds such as 1 clarinet or 1 oboe. For your future information, the perfect small brass ensemble is 2 trumpets, 1 horn, 1 trombone, and 1 tuba. Now who do I send the bill for music consultant? You might want to have one percussionist for color and moments. Nothing says sweeping like suspended cymbal rolls or dramatic effect like timpani rolls.
  • You need a minimum of about 3 string players per part for it not to sound like a solo or small ensemble. "Orchestra" string players will be mic'd if less than that, say for a musical. All other instruments can be 1 of if well-orchestrated. Percussion is important, one percussionist can switch between many perc. instruments too. These are just minimums: more players is definitely very helpful.
  • I think an exact score needs to posted for this question to be answered intelligibly. 

     

    You can get away with not having a second violin section, or without even having violas or basses.

     

    You may not need a tuba or even a trombone.  A horn is sometimes versatile enough to get all the effects you want, though you want probably want trumpets, of course.

     

    Which woodwinds to you want?  You might be able to do without an English horn.  Maybe you don't even want oboes or bassoons.   You might have a flute or flutes, but no piccolo.

     

    Perhaps the only percussion you want will be a cymbal and bass drum.  You can cut things down considerably.

     

    There is no exact minimum.    

     

    No conductor is necessary, if you conduct, or you get the first violinist to do it.

     

    Probably, no one here is going to give you the precise wage estimates to be paid individual performers, or ensembles, since these will vary according to quality and the types of bargains available in given locality.

  • I think an exact score needs to posted for this question to be answered intelligibly. 

     

    You can get away with not having a second violin section, or without even having violas or basses.

     

    You may not need a tuba or even a trombone.  A horn is sometimes versatile enough to get all the effects you want, though you want probably want trumpets, of course.

     

    Which woodwinds to you want?  You might be able to do without an English horn.  Maybe you don't even want oboes or bassoons.   You might have a flute or flutes, but no piccolo.

     

    Perhaps the only percussion you want will be a cymbal and bass drum.  You can cut things down considerably.

     

    There is no exact minimum.    

     

    No conductor is necessary, if you conduct, or you get the first violinist to do it.

     

    Probably, no one here is going to give you the precise wage estimates to be paid individual performers, or ensembles, since these will vary according to quality and the types of bargains available in given locality.

  • Thanks for the input. I have the wages for this union and so I know how many each musician will cost. Just a matter of determine how long it will take to record as well as how many are needed.

    The main issue, I'm putting together the initial numbers. So, a lot of what you;re asking for hasn't been done yet.

    The score isn't done yet. I just know what I plan on using. 

    The main sounds will be strings (violins, cello, violas etc). There is a Hindi ring to it. So, flutes will be needed as well as many lead melodies from violins. I will likely want a timpani, some cymbals etc. Trumpets and other brass as well will be there but I know I don't need 10 of them like I may need for violins. 

     A pianist will also have a lot of cool lead parts and provide solid backing. 

    Just a matter of how many. I don't need to make it as small as possible. Just want enough of each to get the job done.

  • Thank you. Do you have PayPal? lol

    Rodney Carlyle Money said:

    1st violins 8, 2nd violins 6, violas 5, celli 5, basses 5, then you can have soloist woodwinds such as 1 clarinet or 1 oboe. For your future information, the perfect small brass ensemble is 2 trumpets, 1 horn, 1 trombone, and 1 tuba. Now who do I send the bill for music consultant? You might want to have one percussionist for color and moments. Nothing says sweeping like suspended cymbal rolls or dramatic effect like timpani rolls.
    Questions about a live orchestra performing my movie score... [please help lol]
    Hey,Unlike my past projects, my next score will be live recorded by an orchestra. As normal, I will write and record everything electronically, but t…
  • Thank you. Do you have PayPal? lol

    Rodney Carlyle Money said:

    1st violins 8, 2nd violins 6, violas 5, celli 5, basses 5, then you can have soloist woodwinds such as 1 clarinet or 1 oboe. For your future information, the perfect small brass ensemble is 2 trumpets, 1 horn, 1 trombone, and 1 tuba. Now who do I send the bill for music consultant? You might want to have one percussionist for color and moments. Nothing says sweeping like suspended cymbal rolls or dramatic effect like timpani rolls.
    Questions about a live orchestra performing my movie score... [please help lol]
    Hey,Unlike my past projects, my next score will be live recorded by an o
  • Thank you. Do you have PayPal? lol

    Rodney Carlyle Money said:

    1st violins 8, 2nd violins 6, violas 5, celli 5, basses 5, then you can have soloist woodwinds such as 1 clarinet or 1 oboe. For your future information, the perfect small brass ensemble is 2 trumpets, 1 horn, 1 trombone, and 1 tuba. Now who do I send the bill for music consultant? You might want to have one percussionist for color and moments. Nothing says sweeping like suspended cymbal rolls or dramatic effect like timpani rolls.
    Questions about a live orchestra performing my movie score... [please help lol]
    Hey,Unlike my past projects, my next score will be live recorded by an orchestra. As normal, I will write and record everything electronically, but t…
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