Hello colleagues, I posted this a couple of years ago, it has gone through some significant modification since then, based on feedback from brass players. I find a big challenge in writing music for instruments I don’t play in terms of writing music that is physically possible. In this latest iteration, I used a built-in tool in Finale to flag notes beyond the reach of intermediate players and moved large hunks of the piece around, transposed notes from the outer ranges of the instruments into the middle range, changing keys, and rewriting some parts altogether to try and get it to the point of being as playable as possible. If I can get it in front of a group, hoping to get some feedback on how well the lines fit into their idea of playability. Score in the YT, and comments as always invited. 

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  • Hi Gav,

    Nice to have the written music to follow. Although it's not quite my style, I really appreciate and enjoy the playing and the composition. It's definitely a piece to have performed live!

    You asked for our impressions and comments, well I can give you some hints on this one, but that doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the quintet.

    I've noticed that the players have a pretty homophone part to play: the rhythm is for a major part copied to all players, which automatically implies that the 5 instruments almost continuously play at the same time. Maybe some more counterpoint could embellish the composition and create more tension.
    You performed within Finale. I once was a Finale users in a former life. I don't want to say that Finale is not good enough, but the playback capability is very limited and meant for compositors purposes. Once you go beyond that stage, a good DAW would be more useful to mimic a real performance. The Garritan instruments are ready to use, but due to their recording technique, every single note has an attack and a release tail. That is disturbing in trills, where every trill note should flow into the other and that way, the trills can't be natural.

    This being said, since you aim at live playing, the virtual performance is nothing else than an in-between step, so you shouldn't bother too much about it. There was a time that I didn't care at all about the computer performances. I just started to improve my technique because it is very hard these days to get your notes on a stand in a real orchestra... And it helps to hear the possible performance issues.

    I hope I could be of any help here.  But your composition stands sonically and harmonically. Well done!

    Jos

  • Very well done Gav, I'm sure players of any level will enjoy this music. It has kind of an ambiguous style to it, could be classical or a march, or film music which I think will help it appeal to a wide audience; always a good thing.  I do think your ending could have used a little more preparation, it seems a bit sudden.

    You do have a lot of sixteenth note passages, at some point intermediate players could have a problem with those? 

    Good work though.

  • I like it! Perhaps it could be a little more varied (or even challenging) from part B in some of the other parts, which would really increase the intrigue, excitement and playfulness of it.

    OI wonder if this could even work for strings in some way...!

  • @Jos, thanks and regarding your specific comments: 1) I take your point about counterpoint, you are correct that the instruments are operating in concert, this was what I was aiming for but perhaps it doesn't work. If I get a live performance, I will listen to see if this comes across as boring; 2) I would love to try this on a DAW, but have no idea how to do it; 3) Thanks again!

  • @Tillerich, thanks, variety: if I can get a live performance, I will listen to see if the piece comes across as not varied enough. I think this would work for strings - thanks again!
    Tillerich said:

    I like it! Perhaps it could be a little more varied (or even challenging) from part B in some of the other parts, which would really increase the intrigue, excitement and playfulness of it.

    OI wonder if this could even work for strings in some way...!

    Quaoar for intermediate brass 5tet
    Hello colleagues, I posted this a couple of years ago, it has gone through some significant modification since then, based on feedback from brass pla…
  • Hi Ingo, I too wonder about those 16th passages, if I get it in front of a 5tet, I will ask them, I think this would be an easy rewrite.  I thought I was presaging the ending with the passage starting at m194, but obviously this didn't work for you. I will give it another listen with this comment in mind. Thanks!

    Ingo Lee said:

    Very well done Gav, I'm sure players of any level will enjoy this music. It has kind of an ambiguous style to it, could be classical or a march, or film music which I think will help it appeal to a wide audience; always a good thing.  I do think your ending could have used a little more preparation, it seems a bit sudden.

    You do have a lot of sixteenth note passages, at some point intermediate players could have a problem with those? 

    Good work though.

    Quaoar for intermediate brass 5tet
    Hello colleagues, I posted this a couple of years ago, it has gone through some significant modification since then, based on feedback from brass pla…
  • Hey Gav, maybe if you emailed a passage to a local high school band director he(she) would be kind enough to give an opinion?

    You probably presaged your ending just fine but I listen dumb and hopefully get educated as I go!

  • Thanks again Ingo!

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