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  • Thank you, Roger.  I know what you mean.  I'll try to do both to some reasonable measure.

    roger stancill said:

    Mariza, I would also take the short cut method and simply

    listen to a lot of Beethoven for instance, and then 'intuit' the rest.

    I'm lazy that way. So I look for prior art that models what

    I want to learn about and then try to apply it to whatever

    I may be attempting to compose. It's more 'funner' that way :>}      RS

    ps- have a Happy Day, ad infinatum

    New Years (music) resolutions
    Will anyone have any new years resolutions relating to composition? I would like to finish the several St Quartets I am working on and my 1st piano s…
  • Maybe, Socrates, you could lead a "book club" reading of this book, in a thread in this forum.

    People could provide examples to illustrate what's discussed in each chapter, etc.

    I've already ordered a copy from the public library.



    Socrates Arvanitakis said:

    Happy to announce I traced it in Amazon uk

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbo...

     for 69 pence (+ 2.80 packing and postage, of course). I'll order it on Monday!

    New Years (music) resolutions
    Will anyone have any new years resolutions relating to composition? I would like to finish the several St Quartets I am working on and my 1st piano s…
  • Socrates, why did u write "this forum sux " in your list of resolutions? If it sux why do u spend quite a bit of time here? Personally I don't tend to spend time on things I think suck but hey that's just me .... ?!?
  • Paul,
    I think Socrates was simply having a bad day...I always enjoy reading what he has to say as I'm sure you do too.
    What say you Socrates?
  • The wonders of Amazon hey!

    Socrates Arvanitakis said:

    Happy to announce I traced it in Amazon uk

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbo...

     for 69 pence (+ 2.80 packing and postage, of course). I'll order it on Monday!

    New Years (music) resolutions
    Will anyone have any new years resolutions relating to composition? I would like to finish the several St Quartets I am working on and my 1st piano s…
  • My goal this year is to grow as a composer in terms of becoming less restricted in my writing style and process.

    I want to continue to become more dynamic in how I develop pieces instead of following a simple ABA pattern. 

    Also, I need to focus on actually finishing more pieces. I have about 50-60 unfinished songs, and really, I can't even call them "songs". More like 10 seconds ideas that I have no clue how to continue. But, I find that I only finish a song every 6 months or so, and really.... that's not good at all. My goal is to at least do one song a month, even if their short. Getting more music out there and hopefully continueing grow as a composer.

  • @ Paul & Stephen,

    Yes, I was having a bad day, but apart from that, I do mean that this forum sometimes makes me too tired and prevents me from doing other more pleasant/musical things (due to irrelevancy of some subjects under discussion and obstinacy - we don't even agree to disagree it seems and just leave it at that) but hey, Paul, that's only me too, I prefer to stay as a forum member at present, tomorrow maybe different.

    Thanks for the hospitality. Happy New Year!

    @ Blake

    50-60 unfinished! You're lucky! Sometimes I think I've got thousands in manuscript form that I don't have time to digitize.

    ABA is good! I mean for either vocal or instrumental pieces. It can be as short or as long as it fits your aims.

    Expansion/variation has started being discussed already in this thread. Schoenberg's book would elucidate things enormously, I think.

    Regarding unfinished songs (that seem to be stuck) I have found many times that this has something to do with lyrics and poetic meter used. It works for me this way: I have the main idea (the tune for the verse, say, and I'm stuck). I go immediately and change the meter if I want to write something new for the chorus (if I want a chorus that is) and voila!

    The iambs become trochees and the music for the chorus comes unforced (almost generating itself sometimes) or at least the new rhythmic properties suggest new melodic curves. That I have found really helpful and working with me.

    What do you think?

  • @Socrates, lol... "I think I've got thousands in manuscript form that I don't have time to digitize", lol, I think the reason I don't have more is because I can't write music on paper so I everything I write is only contained in memory until I "digitize" it in Fl Studio. Unfortunately, I have faulty memory at times so 60% of the melodies I pick out on the piano get forgotten, else I'd probably have more... but I definitely understand what you mean... sometimes there's just not enough time to finish or really even get started on the ideas that can pop into ones head...

    ABA can be good, yes. Unfortunately, I haven't the knowledge to successfully pull it off without my music sounding stunted, repetitive, and boring. I started with my first "compositions" being of the pop/hip-hop variety. Very much looped and repeated verses that offered little in the way of interest and variation. I'm trying to grow out of that and bring my orchestrations to a higher level of complexity if you will. Not every song though has to be done that way, of course. 

    I'll admit that I am very limited in my technical knowledge of music so, atm, I'm just learning as much as possible through experience and trying new things. 

  • About "Resolutions."

    I think we need to ask the musical compositions themselves (and not the composers) about how they view the coming year.

    Do they have any plans to resolve, during the exposition, development or recapitulation of the main theme, or in the last chord of the coda?

    Should a New Year's (Music) Resolution be a CEG chord, or perhaps something a bit more original?

  • I believe it depends on the previous chord, Ondib. (not necessarily a 2015 chord).

    O. Olmnilnlolm said:

    About "Resolutions."

    I think we need to ask the musical compositions themselves (and not the composers) about how they view the coming year.

    Do they have any plans to resolve, during the exposition, development or recapitulation of the main theme, or in the last chord of the coda?

    Should a New Year's (Music) Resolution be a CEG chord, or perhaps something a bit more original?

    New Years (music) resolutions
    Will anyone have any new years resolutions relating to composition? I would like to finish the several St Quartets I am working on and my 1st piano s…
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