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  • Funny I should log into a composers forum that I rarely spend time on, and the first entry I see is Lassi Tani from Finland!  

    I'm jamming the track now - I really enjoy the sound of it, particularly the melody that you have the cellos carrying in the beginning.  I wish there were a way to import this into Skyrim.  What program are you using to generate these sounds? 

    Based on just a first listen, I have the following:

    My only criticism is that you seem to have most (or all) of your instruments coming through the center channel.  If you were to pan them out a little wider, and use reverb on individual sections to give the ear the illusion of depth, the listener would feel more like they were sitting in a concert hall listening to the tune.  And, perhaps just a matter of personal taste, but I would add a touch more reverb to the overall track.  Great piece though bro.  I could easily hear this in an epic game or movie soundtrack.  

  • Nice to see you here David! :D

    Thank you for your comment!

    DAW I'm using is FL Studio. I used EastWest/QuantumLeap Symphonic Orchestra, Kontakt 5's orchestral stuff, Soundiron's Apocalypse Ensemble v2.0. Btw, I really like Soundiron.

    Yeah I agree with your criticism on the mix. I'll do something about it. Thanks for pointing it out.

  • Wow, very nice. My thoughts that you could try to add more dynamics to the strings. The mod wheel might help with that. I really like the percussion. I have to check out this soundiron stuff.

  • I had no idea FL Studio was this powerful.  I use Kontakt 5, or at least Garritan.  What advantages do you find with EastWest and Apocalypse Ensemble vs. Garritan?  I'm going to be expanding my library soon, hopefully.  

  • I don't know about Garritan, but I got EastWest SO with 50% off the price. It has a lot to offer. Apocalypse Ensemble suits my cinematic passion very well too.

    Here's a new version of the same piece. I used more panning, added reverb, tried to add more dynamics.

    Thanks for suggestions!

    Ascending to the Blue Mountain.mp3

    https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8608161465?profile=original
  • it's got some great spacing to it!  I myself am still exploring how to humanize these things as much as possible, but this sounds more like sitting in a room listening to an orchestra already.  There are a few different articles online that are worth a read with some good guidelines about how to space an orchestra.  I recommend looking into a few different sources as you continue to produce this kind of stuff.  This is a really well written piece though - I had no idea you could compose so well.

  • Thanks David! I'll google some articles then. Mixing is an endless path :).

    Thank you for compliment! Well I make lots of mistakes still, since I haven't studied music. I bought a music theory book, which should help a little.

    David Hitchcock said:

    it's got some great spacing to it!  I myself am still exploring how to humanize these things as much as possible, but this sounds more like sitting in a room listening to an orchestra already.  There are a few different articles online that are worth a read with some good guidelines about how to space an orchestra.  I recommend looking into a few different sources as you continue to produce this kind of stuff.  This is a really well written piece though - I had no idea you could compose so well.

    My first composition here
    I started this a couple of weeks ago. I hope to get hints, how to make this better. I'm willing to change it, mastering, structure, melody, harmony,…
  • A new version. I added more dynamics to the violins. Now they fade out a bit before next note. I tried adding more space too, I'm not sure, if you can hear that.

    Ascending to the Blue Mountain.mp3

  • I definitely like where you're headed with things here.  Have you done a "car listen" on this yet?  One of the crucial elements to mixing is listening to your track played back on as many things as possible (I usually try to listen on my studio monitors, then just normal computer speakers, then headphones, then my car.  Each time sounds somewhat different).  A car listen is usually the one I pay attention to most, since that's where I listen to most of my music.  The only reason I bring this up is because it seems like your brass now stand WAY out in front of everything, all the time.  And, it doesn't mean it sounds like that on EVERYTHING (I have made so many mixes where, before I did my car listen sounded fine, and during my car listen I went "whoa, that is WAY louder than I wanted"), but just something to note.  If that's your intention, then keep it :)

    It's really easy to be overly critical when learning and working with new techniques, so I suppose I'll also share this bit of wisdom.  1.  If it sounds good, it is good.  2.  It's easy to spend all of our time trying to marginally perfect things that already sound great.  If this were my piece, I would spend a little more time experimenting with spacing, mixing, etc. just for the sake of learning these things, but once I had it a little more polished and having the impact I want, I would call it done.  Put it out there in your portfolio, soundcloud, whatever, for the world to hear.  If someone wants to buy it but wants a better engineered version, it's really easy to go back and tweak (or just hire someone with their money to do it, lol).  You don't want to release music that you have to make excuses for, but you also don't want to wait for things to be completely perfect - release the best that you can at the time, and you'll find you actually learn faster (and gain more fans) as you consistently release new material.  

    And if you need help with learning music theory, I would be glad to help with that.  Although in a composers' forum I'm sure there are people better qualified than me.  

  • Thanks David! I haven't listened to this in car, yet :). Good suggestion. I agree that the brass stands out too much. I had too much compression on it. I'll fix that.

    I think I'll leave the track for a while, and come back to it after 1 or 2 weeks. I think I'll hear it differently then. It needs polishing, but I have to check out some tutorials first to see what can be done.

    David Hitchcock said:

    I definitely like where you're headed with things here.  Have you done a "car listen" on this yet?  One of the crucial elements to mixing is listening to your track played back on as many things as possible (I usually try to listen on my studio monitors, then just normal computer speakers, then headphones, then my car.  Each time sounds somewhat different).  A car listen is usually the one I pay attention to most, since that's where I listen to most of my music.  The only reason I bring this up is because it seems like your brass now stand WAY out in front of everything, all the time.  And, it doesn't mean it sounds like that on EVERYTHING (I have made so many mixes where, before I did my car listen sounded fine, and during my car listen I went "whoa, that is WAY louder than I wanted"), but just something to note.  If that's your intention, then keep it :)

    It's really easy to be overly critical when learning and working with new techniques, so I suppose I'll also share this bit of wisdom.  1.  If it sounds good, it is good.  2.  It's easy to spend all of our time trying to marginally perfect things that already sound great.  If this were my piece, I would spend a little more time experimenting with spacing, mixing, etc. just for the sake of learning these things, but once I had it a little more polished and having the impact I want, I would call it done.  Put it out there in your portfolio, soundcloud, whatever, for the world to hear.  If someone wants to buy it but wants a better engineered version, it's really easy to go back and tweak (or just hire someone with their money to do it, lol).  You don't want to release music that you have to make excuses for, but you also don't want to wait for things to be completely perfect - release the best that you can at the time, and you'll find you actually learn faster (and gain more fans) as you consistently release new material.  

    And if you need help with learning music theory, I would be glad to help with that.  Although in a composers' forum I'm sure there are people better qualified than me.  

    My first composition here
    I started this a couple of weeks ago. I hope to get hints, how to make this better. I'm willing to change it, mastering, structure, melody, harmony,…
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