Finale of a string sextet. Beginning

Hi! I'm writing the finale of my string sextet, and I've been in a creative drought for the last 6 months because of personal issues. I wanted this to be the finale of my 2nd piano sonata, but yesterday I decided to switch the finales of the sonata and the sextet. Today I've rescored it for strings.

It's supposed to be in sonata form. I have the intro, the 1st theme, the transition, and the start of a 2nd theme. I also have ideas for a development. I'm thinking of employing (maybe!) cyclical form, i.e. quoting the previous movements as in Frack's symphony or Ravel's sonatina. I think the concept can make the structure cooler, and I'm lazy, so repurposing previous material can save me work XD

I'm not sure of the 2nd theme, not sure if it fits. I'd love it to have very chromatic and nonfunctional harmonies and raise up to a climax... But so far, no luck.

Video with score

Draft score

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  • Here's my progress so far: Videoscore.

    I've decided a sonata form's a bit too "heavy" for a finale, I don't want to overwhelm the listener after the intensive cerebral pounding previous movements. Instead, I'll lay out the finale in rondo form (intro+ABA'CA''B+coda), but the central episode ("C"), will include both a new theme and bits of development, as Prokofiev does in some of his finales.

    I've thightened the main theme ("A"), making it more catchy (rondo themes tend to be more catchy than discursive). I've written a new B-theme that doesn't need a tempo change (wasn't a big fan of doing that in the previous version). I''ve added also a new theme for the C section (reusing a trio that didn't fit in a waltz). I'm missing the transitions between A and B, and between A and C.

  • This is very catchy as you say Albert and rondo fits well here.  It reminds me of Golliwogg's Cakewalk with maybe a taste of Gershwin and then it gets a bit Strauss like with a modern sounding fragment at the end. Either the cakewalk or waltz groove almost begs to have a strong contrast thrown in to my ear anyway. I'm not sure how formalistic you need to be here but that is a system that is tried and true and you do quite well with it.

    Nice work!

  • Hi Albert, I'm sorry I have an empty comment above, I think the server dropped it but I'm not sure what happened.

    What I had said was that this piece is very catchy and enjoyable as you say. It is very well written, it reminds me a little bit of 'Golliwog's Cakewalk' or maybe a some of Gershwin.  I think the rondo form is appropriate for this piece.  You are following a formal construction with themes and transitions which you do very well.  My only suggestion would be that with a piece like this you could be less formal and more spontaneous;  perhaps introduce some strongly contrasting material without preparation or employ a 'through composed' approach.

    Good work so far!

  • Thanks, Ingo! Indeed, the rondo mold is a bit restrictive. I'm not very satisfied with repeating the main theme verbatim so many times when it already has some internal repetition. That probably gives the piece the formality you mention. I've also found out that if I keep the template as it is now, this movement will be the longest, which I don't like.

    I think I'll shorten considerably the A' before the C. I've also noticed each phase lends itself to be transposed by a 3rd at each repetition, I could do some sort of Coltrane Changes I guess. Then I could make it "crash" with the C theme in a quite sudden way. I'll use a different C theme because this one has too many ideas. Don't worry about the formality, though, the previous movement has a trio with quite many non sequiturs and is less formal overall.

    Thanks for listening!

    Ingo Lee said:

    Hi Albert, I'm sorry I have an empty comment above, I think the server dropped it but I'm not sure what happened.

    What I had said was that this piece is very catchy and enjoyable as you say. It is very well written, it reminds me a little bit of 'Golliwog's Cakewalk' or maybe a some of Gershwin.  I think the rondo form is appropriate for this piece.  You are following a formal construction with themes and transitions which you do very well.  My only suggestion would be that with a piece like this you could be less formal and more spontaneous;  perhaps introduce some strongly contrasting material without preparation or employ a 'through composed' approach.

    Good work so far!

    Finale of a string sextet. Beginning
    Hi! I'm writing the finale of my string sextet, and I've been in a creative drought for the last 6 months because of personal issues. I wanted this t…
  • With your talent and skill I think it would be interesting to see what you would do in a free form environment.  Coltrane himself went from 'coltrane changes' to a much wilder approach that cost him quite a few followers; dangerous ground indeed!

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