Hi everyone! This is my first posting here. Please give a look/listen to this mockup of my first a capella arrangement, for SATB quartet, of the hymn "Of The Father's Love Begotten". All comments and constructive criticism are welcome.

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  • Really nice, I particularly enjoyed the "unusual" chords! The B half diminished in bar 65 left me hoping it would go somewhere more modern, but that's no biggie! The final progression was quite delicious, however... It made me think once again that these chords were perhaps too "hip" for the traditional nature of the rest of the arrangement. In any case, this is just minutia and mostly down to taste. The only real criticism would be in the modulation to F, it's a bit sudden, feels not well prepared. I would struggle to sing that...

    Off topic, I was really intrigued by the library you used, it seemed to sing the words at times and others not. What is it? Soloists of Prague by any chance?

  • Really nice, I particularly enjoyed the "unusual" chords! The B half diminished in bar 65 left me hoping it would go somewhere more modern, but that's no biggie! The final progression was quite delicious, however... It made me think once again that these chords were perhaps too "hip" for the traditional nature of the rest of the arrangement. In any case, this is just minutia and mostly down to taste. The only real criticism would be in the modulation to F, it's a bit sudden, feels not well prepared. I would struggle to sing that...

    Off topic, I was really intrigued by the library you used, it seemed to sing the words at times and others not. What is it? Soloists of Prague by any chance?

  • Hi James,

    A substantial and interesting work. I do not have time at the moment to really comment on it, but will return before long with some thoughts -

    Gav

  • Hi James,

    A substantial and interesting work. I do not have time at the moment to really comment on it, but will return before long with some thoughts -

    Gav

  • Thanks for your kind words; I am glad you enjoyed it. I am thinking of the chord in 65 as a G9/B with only an implied root, so yes, it is pretty traditional to resolve to a C. I guess I am pretty traditional at heart. All of the modulations are just slight variations of V7 --> I.

    Yes, the Library used was Soloists of Prague. I bought the Choral Bundle a few weeks ago on clearance right before Virharmonic discontinued it. It took quite a bit of work to get the pronunciation to more-or-less work, but it is by no means perfect. However, it seemed a little easier to work with than EWQL Symphonic Choirs or Hollywood choirs, which I have also used. Do you own any of the Word-building types of choral libraries?

    Claude Werner said:

    Really nice, I particularly enjoyed the "unusual" chords! The B half diminished in bar 65 left me hoping it would go somewhere more modern, but that's no biggie! The final progression was quite delicious, however... It made me think once again that these chords were perhaps too "hip" for the traditional nature of the rest of the arrangement. In any case, this is just minutia and mostly down to taste. The only real criticism would be in the modulation to F, it's a bit sudden, feels not well prepared. I would struggle to sing that...

    Off topic, I was really intrigued by the library you used, it seemed to sing the words at times and others not. What is it? Soloists of Prague by any chance?

    comments/constructive criticism requested for a capella SATB quartet arrangement: "Of The Father's…
    Hi everyone! This is my first posting here. Please give a look/listen to this mockup of my first a capella arrangement, for SATB quartet, of the hymn…
  • Thanks, I will be happy to hear your input once you have time. And thanks for hosting this site.

    Gav Brown said:

    Hi James,

    A substantial and interesting work. I do not have time at the moment to really comment on it, but will return before long with some thoughts -

    Gav

    comments/constructive criticism requested for a capella SATB quartet arrangement: "Of The Father's…
    Hi everyone! This is my first posting here. Please give a look/listen to this mockup of my first a capella arrangement, for SATB quartet, of the hymn…
  • Ah yes, I did as well! i.e. bought the bundle. I haven't used it yet, but I did have a play around with it to see what it could do and there's definitely a function that does legato on vowels, you should try it! It will improve your performance dramatically. I was quite disappointed at the lack of diphthongs, I'm wondering how I'll get around that in the future..

    I also own the EW, a superior instrument no doubt and much easier to get it to do things properly. Thanks for the reply!

    James Gilmour said:

    Thanks for your kind words; I am glad you enjoyed it. I am thinking of the chord in 65 as a G9/B with only an implied root, so yes, it is pretty traditional to resolve to a C. I guess I am pretty traditional at heart. All of the modulations are just slight variations of V7 --> I.

    Yes, the Library used was Soloists of Prague. I bought the Choral Bundle a few weeks ago on clearance right before Virharmonic discontinued it. It took quite a bit of work to get the pronunciation to more-or-less work, but it is by no means perfect. However, it seemed a little easier to work with than EWQL Symphonic Choirs or Hollywood choirs, which I have also used. Do you own any of the Word-building types of choral libraries?

    Claude Werner said:

    Really nice, I particularly enjoyed the "unusual" chords! The B half diminished in bar 65 left me hoping it would go somewhere more modern, but that's no biggie! The final progression was quite delicious, however... It made me think once again that these chords were perhaps too "hip" for the traditional nature of the rest of the arrangement. In any case, this is just minutia and mostly down to taste. The only real criticism would be in the modulation to F, it's a bit sudden, feels not well prepared. I would struggle to sing that...

    Off topic, I was really intrigued by the library you used, it seemed to sing the words at times and others not. What is it? Soloists of Prague by any chance?

    comments/constructive criticism requested for a capella SATB quartet arrangement: "Of The Father's…
    Hi everyone! This is my first posting here. Please give a look/listen to this mockup of my first a capella arrangement, for SATB quartet, of the hymn…
  • Ah yes, I did as well! i.e. bought the bundle. I haven't used it yet, but I did have a play around with it to see what it could do and there's definitely a function that does legato on vowels, you should try it! It will improve your performance dramatically. I was quite disappointed at the lack of diphthongs, I'm wondering how I'll get around that in the future..

    I also own the EW, a superior instrument no doubt and much easier to get it to do things properly. Thanks for the reply!

    James Gilmour said:

    Thanks for your kind words; I am glad you enjoyed it. I am thinking of the chord in 65 as a G9/B with only an implied root, so yes, it is pretty traditional to resolve to a C. I guess I am pretty traditional at heart. All of the modulations are just slight variations of V7 --> I.

    Yes, the Library used was Soloists of Prague. I bought the Choral Bundle a few weeks ago on clearance right before Virharmonic discontinued it. It took quite a bit of work to get the pronunciation to more-or-less work, but it is by no means perfect. However, it seemed a little easier to work with than EWQL Symphonic Choirs or Hollywood choirs, which I have also used. Do you own any of the Word-building types of choral libraries?

    Claude Werner said:

    Really nice, I particularly enjoyed the "unusual" chords! The B half diminished in bar 65 left me hoping it would go somewhere more modern, but that's no biggie! The final progression was quite delicious, however... It made me think once again that these chords were perhaps too "hip" for the traditional nature of the rest of the arrangement. In any case, this is just minutia and mostly down to taste. The only real criticism would be in the modulation to F, it's a bit sudden, feels not well prepared. I would struggle to sing that...

    Off topic, I was really intrigued by the library you used, it seemed to sing the words at times and others not. What is it? Soloists of Prague by any chance?

    comments/constructive criticism requested for a capella SATB quartet arrangement: "Of The Father's…
    Hi everyone! This is my first posting here. Please give a look/listen to this mockup of my first a capella arrangement, for SATB quartet, of the hymn…
  • Dear James, I enjoyed your piece VERY much! The leading of the voices convey a wonderful sense of  transcendence what I always love. I would also very much like to listen to this in a string quartett version - would this be possible?

    Gerd

  • Gerd, thank you for your comment! That is an interesting idea to try this as a string quartet, although I do not yet have experience in that area. So far, the only string library I have is Adagietto from 8dio, which does not include solo strings. I did buy the Total Performance Solo Cello from Spitfire Audio recently, but I do not have any decent solo violin or viola patches. I considered buying the Trio Broz instruments from Fluffy Audio, and may still do that soon, but I have spent far more than I should have on libraries this year already. I cannot currently justify spending big bucks on any of the better known string libraries.

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