Written 18 months ago. In the time since I’ve attempted to convert it to VSL – without success. Samples here are ancient but I can’t get the effect I want with VSL. Why? I don’t know. So I’d leave it as it is except for some pizz stuff near the end which I may cut out.

It’s one I’d like to submit to our County orchestra so my question is, does it sound adequate as a mock-up?

I’d be truly appreciative of any comment, good or bad. It’s slow, ruminative; and if you think it’s boring don’t be afraid to say. Sooner here than people afterwards glancing heavenward should it be performed!

Many thanks. 

NOTE: THANKS TO SOME PERCEPTIVE COMMENTS I REVISED THE ENDING. IF INCLINED TO LISTEN, PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS REVISED EDITION.

https://soundcloud.com/acitore/clouds-version-2

Instead of this one. Thank you. :)

 

 https://soundcloud.com/acitore/clouds-landscapes

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  • Sincere thanks for your comments.

    Yeah, it was my bad to attach "landscapes" to the file. That’s a folder I keep like pieces in. That's all.

    As to impressionist: it's labels. 

    It most fits. About mood and atmosphere rather than tone picture. I put it somewhere in the topic title or description so that those who don't like the style can dismiss it.

    I have doubts about the validity of synaesthetically associating music to the visual and mood seems to be the only choice (that I have anyway). It’s what I feel not what I see. Like most attempts at creativity it’s always going to be deeply personal (unless nicking someone else’s work which I don't knowingly do).

    Definitely not what I understand by expressionism. 

    Hope that clarifies a little at least.

    :)

    Valerio Dalla Ragione said:

    Hi Dane

    I basically agree with what Bob has said in the first commentary, but I also feel the need to add a few things:

    Why have you defined the piece "impressionist"? I sense the visual representation you're giving us is very personal, subjective (swinging thoughts and emotions deriving from the visual experience), therefore expressionist - not that these terms mean very much to me or to the music itself :))
    I would just like to make sure that we are communicating on the same levels.

    Clouds - impressionist piece for small orchestra.
    Written 18 months ago. In the time since I’ve attempted to convert it to VSL – without success. Samples here are ancient but I can’t get the effect I…
  • Well sure, music is all about mood. But I think music tied somehow to, say, video, is a powerful thing. You can say it limits what you feel. But it also might help focus what you feel. Just depends.

  • Yes. I think we're talking about different things. Video and music can accompany each other fine. (I don't always think they're appropriate for each other but that's aside). I was questioning the value of trying to paint a tone picture with music though some composers do - including me!  Just as I'd question a (silent) video trying to compose music. Sometimes associations can be made - but rarely in my (perhaps limited) experience.

    Bob Porter said:

    Well sure, music is all about mood. But I think music tied somehow to, say, video, is a powerful thing. You can say it limits what you feel. But it also might help focus what you feel. Just depends.

    Clouds - impressionist piece for small orchestra.
    Written 18 months ago. In the time since I’ve attempted to convert it to VSL – without success. Samples here are ancient but I can’t get the effect I…
  • I think I would double up on that last chord somehow, still. The whole piece floats this way and that at a very slow pace, if you want to wrap it up then the wrapping also needs some time to sink in.

    Excellent work.

  • Dane,

    Sorry, I got interrupted. I think it possible that music paints a picture in your minds eye. I'm not sure we can divorce mood and emotions completely from what we envision. For me, Ashokan Farewell will forever be tied to Ken Burns' Civil War. And I'm OK with that. It wasn't written for it. Of course, video and music aren't always appropriate for each other. But I love a good soundtrack. 

  • Many thanks for that suggestion, Greg. I'll probably do something like that. I altered it because of earlier comments to make it faded away rather than end on a cadence and, quite right, doubling the chord and fading it more quietly still could signal "it's gone".

    Cheers. Thank you for listening.

    Greg Brus said:

    I think I would double up on that last chord somehow, still. The whole piece floats this way and that at a very slow pace, if you want to wrap it up then the wrapping also needs some time to sink in.

    Excellent work.

    Clouds - impressionist piece for small orchestra.
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  • Many thanks for your kind comments, Michael.  Before now I’ve been called “the poor man’s Debussy!” (I think I’m closer to earlier Sculthorpe.) Impressionist is just a general label. Sometimes a tune presents itself as happened here. I just go by what I feel.

    I doubt I’ll write anything in this vein for a while – just one more that I’ve recently converted to Vsl, hopefully with a bit more success.

    Thank you for listening. Much appreciated.

    TJM?



    michael diemer said:

    As soon as I see a piece titled Clouds, I can't help but think of Nuages by Debussy (in other words, Claude's Clouds). Without the rapid figures on the woodwinds, it would be fairly similar, updated about a 100 years, of course. Which is how I would prefer it, but TJM as they say. Much of your music seems to have this kind of writing (the rapid figurations, that is). I guess that is just how you like to structure your pieces. And you do it quite well.

    On the impressionist/expressionist thing, perhaps these two are on a continuum. As such, I would judge this piece as falling somewhere in the middle. 

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