Choral Piece!

Hi again!

Here's a choral piece I wrote while on break from school for a bit. Thoughts and feedback are much appreciated!! It's a religiously inspired piece.

Here's also a link if you want to see a score synced with the generated audio.

https://musescore.com/user/23555571/scores/5938079

wip007.mp3

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  • This has a great worshipful  feel to it. The words are great, although I might try to give more depth to them as the piece develops. The harmonies are excellent but aren't reflected in Musescore as harmony. I just downloaded that program and realize there is quite a lot to learn in it. 

    This could certainly be developed more with regard to adding additional instruments to the basic underlying piano part.

  • Hey Austin. If you're into the choir thing here's a link to a great library. Of course there are plenty of others too. 

    You would need to probably change your composition setup though. Unless Musescore can handle Kontakt. 

    OCEANA CHOIR

  • Hi Timothy, this looks super cool! I'm definitely going to look into this. I think that you're definitely right that I might need to change up my setup though, because I have no clue if Musescore would support this. Thanks for the recommendation!

    Timothy Smith said:

    Hey Austin. If you're into the choir thing here's a link to a great library. Of course there are plenty of others too. 

    You would need to probably change your composition setup though. Unless Musescore can handle Kontakt. 

    OCEANA CHOIR

    Choral Piece!
    Hi again! Here's a choral piece I wrote while on break from school for a bit. Thoughts and feedback are much appreciated!! It's a religiously inspire…
  • Hi Austin,

    Yes, this needs to be sung or ahhhed with a less "square envelope" vocal sound. I think you're pushing your luck with those high As. The sopranos could probably hit one or two but to enunciate across a stream of them would be tiring especially when you get to fortissimo. 

    I found the endless and unvarying hammered out piano chords palled quickly especially as the harmony varies over the top. The solo in bar 45 came as quite a relief but then in bar 49 it was back banging away again. It was only on reaching bar 55 that the solo voices brought out the varied harmony. 

    Is it not possible to vary the harmony in the piano to reflect some of the modal harmonies going on above?

    But then, it's your work and if  you're happy with it that's all that matters.

    Dane. 

    55 voice soli 45 solo

  • Hey Dane, 

    Just to clarify, I'm nor really sure what "square envelope" means in a musical setting? I'm rather new to a lot of this, composing at least, and just clarifying that would help.

    Touching on the soprano part, I'm not entirely certain what a good vocal range for most parts is exactly, so I've been going off of the advice of musicians I know and play with. My go-to soprano told me it was an okay range, but looking back at it now, she does sing a lot of theatre music, so I assume she's got a pretty varied range. Thanks for the help there!

    I'm going to take your advice on changing up the piano underneath. I thought it was an interesting rhythm to start out with, so I just went with it for these early drafts, and figured someone nice like yourself would give some feedback on it!

    Overall, thanks so much for the feedback! It's going to be very helpful in the long run, I think, and it's really valuable to a beginner like me!

    Thanks again,

    Austin

    Dane Aubrun said:

    Hi Austin,

    Yes, this needs to be sung or ahhhed with a less "square envelope" vocal sound. I think you're pushing your luck with those high As. The sopranos could probably hit one or two but to enunciate across a stream of them would be tiring especially when you get to fortissimo. 

    I found the endless and unvarying hammered out piano chords palled quickly especially as the harmony varies over the top. The solo in bar 45 came as quite a relief but then in bar 49 it was back banging away again. It was only on reaching bar 55 that the solo voices brought out the varied harmony. 

    Is it not possible to vary the harmony in the piano to reflect some of the modal harmonies going on above?

    But then, it's your work and if  you're happy with it that's all that matters.

    Dane. 

    55 voice soli 45 solo

    Choral Piece!
    Hi again! Here's a choral piece I wrote while on break from school for a bit. Thoughts and feedback are much appreciated!! It's a religiously inspire…
  • Hi, Austin,

    Difficult to explain without a picture. But it's about the way a sound "happens" through time. It has to start up, reach its volume, then die away and finally stops. I found a video that explains it far better than I can (with text), on Youtube. 4 minutes. Worth a look if you're ever involved with sample players - they often allow parts of a sound's envelope to be adjusted. 

    https://youtu.be/Q-ot9AaJx-Y

    So I meant an envelope that abruptly hits its maximum amplitude/volume and stays that way until it's cut off. The envelope would look like the profile of an inverted box. A voice would have to start with a plosive consonant like baaaa or daaa to get an instant attack but lah-ing or aaah-ing would be a bit slower/softer. I hope the video helped. If not, call back and I'll draw and photograph some diagrams.

    I still believe the high A for a choir is a bit risky. It's possible but would be tiring. G is usually seen as a limit. Solo sopranos can do it and a coloratura could get the top C easily. However, others here may think differently.  

    Hope this clarifies.

    Cheers, Dane

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