Children's Piece for Piano

[Updated]

Hi everybody!

This is my first musical contribution to the forum. It is also the first time I've notated my work from start to finish. The piece is rather self-explanatory and is in a very simple form. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated. Attached you will find an updated (compliments to H.S. Teoh for the suggestions!) .XML file, as well as a pdf.

Just for fun, I imported the score into a DAW (Propellerhead Reason 4) and assigned a string section to the LH, and a solo violin sound to the RH. That sound file is also attached.  


 

One Two Three.xml

One Two Three.pdf

One Two Three.mp3

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  • Hello Ilko.

    I think this is a very nice piece for children.  It sounds delightful, and sufficiently complex musically to be interesting and educational.  Many if not most of children's repertoire is musically simplistic (boring), in my opinion, but you demonstrate that an easy to play piece can still be complex enough in musical terms.

    You have a second piano coming in (though you used some keyboard setting that is not really a piano sound), which I assume is for the teacher to play, or a second child to play?  I really loved the delightful sound it brings in!  It is unexpected in a good way.  It "fills the room", so to speak, with a rich and sweet sound.

    I wonder, do you think it would work if that second piano came in an octave lower?  That way, both players could use the same piano keyboard.

    For a kid, I think it is fascinating to hear the tremendous effect that the 2nd player is able to add to the piece, by adding in only a few notes.  I bet it sounds like some kind of magical effect.

    If you don't mind, I will send your piece to my son's piano teacher, so she can consider it for her students.

    Mariza

  • This is a nice little piece, certainly well-suited for children. I like your themes and the little surprises you put into it toward the end. However, there are some issues:

    The notation seems a bit off... from the way it sounds, it seems to me that the first 2 notes should be an upbeat, not on the downbeat as you have written it here.  That is, all the bar lines should be shifted to the right by one quarter note, so that the first G in the RH falls on the first beat, rather than the 2nd.

    Also, there is a strong discord in m.11 between the G# in the LH and the G in the RH, that doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the piece. May I suggest using this figure for the LH instead: (F)-G-E-G#-A. Please see the attached .pdf that show what I mean.

    The pedal mark from m.9 to m.16 seems a bit too long; it causes the different chords to sustain into each other and produce a rather messy sound. I'd recommend breaking up the pedalling to each bar instead (according to the fixed barline positions as mentioned above -- that way the sustain will correctly last throughout each single chord arpeggiated by the LH).

    Furthermore, the extraneous pedal mark under the top staff in m.8 looks rather odd. Usually you only write a single pedal mark for the entire piano, since most pianos only come with a single pedal, not one pedal for LH and one for RH.

    I'm unsure of the purpose of the second piano in single staff that enters at m.13. Is that intended to be a second piano, or a different instrument? It seems to clash with what's going on in the main piano; perhaps you intended a different instrument an octave higher?

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  • Hi Mariza!

    Thank you very much for the kind words.

    That second piano sound has now been removed (I've updated the notation and sound files), because I initially intended there to be major/minor third movements in the RH (that's how I always play the piece). I have now properly notated and combined it with the other treble clef notes.

    A second player could definitely bring something magical (it is a waltz, after all!) to the table, so to speak. And in this C major piece, that shouldn't be too difficult.

    Wow! By all means. It would truly be an honor if you did.

    I actually got inspired to compose this while I was playing possible arrangements to a popular Bulgarian children's melody I was sight-reading out of a music-book. I will notate that melody in the .XML format and attach it here.




    Mariza Costa-Cabral said:

    Hello Ilko.

    I think this is a very nice piece for children.  It sounds delightful, and sufficiently complex musically to be interesting and educational.  Many if not most of children's repertoire is musically simplistic (boring), in my opinion, but you demonstrate that an easy to play piece can still be complex enough in musical terms.

    You have a second piano coming in (though you used some keyboard setting that is not really a piano sound), which I assume is for the teacher to play, or a second child to play?  I really loved the delightful sound it brings in!  It is unexpected in a good way.  It "fills the room", so to speak, with a rich and sweet sound.

    I wonder, do you think it would work if that second piano came in an octave lower?  That way, both players could use the same piano keyboard.

    For a kid, I think it is fascinating to hear the tremendous effect that the 2nd player is able to add to the piece, by adding in only a few notes.  I bet it sounds like some kind of magical effect.

    If you don't mind, I will send your piece to my son's piano teacher, so she can consider it for her students.

    Mariza

    Children's Piece for Piano
    [Updated] Hi everybody! This is my first musical contribution to the forum. It is also the first time I've notated my work from start to finish. Th…
  • Hi H.S. Teoh!

    Thank you very much for your time and thorough critique.
    I have uploaded the new files - notes are shifted, pedal marks have been extracted.

    I tried other options as with regard to that discord, but it isn't dissonant, and I think it fits in well.

    The pedal function I was using in MuseScore apparently attaches itself to a specific bar/or horizontal bars. I have yet to find out which one to use for two staves (and how to control velocity in MuseScore, because as a whole, playing back MIDI sounds awful).
    In the updated version of the score I've taken out most of the pedal marks.
    I've also taken out the second piano and combined those notes with the RH line in the way I normally play the piece.


    H. S. Teoh said:

    This is a nice little piece, certainly well-suited for children. I like your themes and the little surprises you put into it toward the end. However, there are some issues:

    The notation seems a bit off... from the way it sounds, it seems to me that the first 2 notes should be an upbeat, not on the downbeat as you have written it here.  That is, all the bar lines should be shifted to the right by one quarter note, so that the first G in the RH falls on the first beat, rather than the 2nd.

    Also, there is a strong discord in m.11 between the G# in the LH and the G in the RH, that doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the piece. May I suggest using this figure for the LH instead: (F)-G-E-G#-A. Please see the attached .pdf that show what I mean.

    The pedal mark from m.9 to m.16 seems a bit too long; it causes the different chords to sustain into each other and produce a rather messy sound. I'd recommend breaking up the pedalling to each bar instead (according to the fixed barline positions as mentioned above -- that way the sustain will correctly last throughout each single chord arpeggiated by the LH).

    Furthermore, the extraneous pedal mark under the top staff in m.8 looks rather odd. Usually you only write a single pedal mark for the entire piano, since most pianos only come with a single pedal, not one pedal for LH and one for RH.

    I'm unsure of the purpose of the second piano in single staff that enters at m.13. Is that intended to be a second piano, or a different instrument? It seems to clash with what's going on in the main piano; perhaps you intended a different instrument an octave higher?

    Children's Piece for Piano
    [Updated] Hi everybody! This is my first musical contribution to the forum. It is also the first time I've notated my work from start to finish. Th…
  • This is interesting! I didn't know one could replace previously uploaded files!

    Ilko, how did you do that? It seems like the files uploaded in your original post have been replaced by the updated ones.

  • Yes, one has the option of deleting currently uploaded files. 
    Then, to add new ones, you simply click on "Options" --> "Edit Discussion". That way you are able to change the entire submission.

    Mariza Costa-Cabral said:

    This is interesting! I didn't know one could replace previously uploaded files!

    Ilko, how did you do that? It seems like the files uploaded in your original post have been replaced by the updated ones.

    Children's Piece for Piano
    [Updated] Hi everybody! This is my first musical contribution to the forum. It is also the first time I've notated my work from start to finish. Th…
  • Ilko, Thank you! I never knew one could do that. That is very good to know.
    Mariza
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