Looking towards fall: considering taking on a "Finale intern" to help with publishing work.

[phil Kelly]

I don't know if any of you younger guys are interested in what I'm about to offer, but here's the situation in broad strokes:

My current editor /Finale guru , Steve Sample ( also a member here ) has begun to get very busy with his own personal projects, and has requested a furlough from helping me with my recording and publishingwork in the coming year. Since my familiarity with Finale has heretofore been almost totally with thewriting and inputting side, my knowlege of the printing and page layout functions is quite rudimentary.( I can get something laid out and printed, but it takes me forever and my results are not up to what I'd call professional standards. -besides, I feel my time is better spent economically generating new material than in spending the necessary time to master the "other side" of the Finale system. )

Lazy ? You betcha! ..but having said that, here's the deal:

I'm looking for a young upcoming composer who is fairly expert in the editing and finishing functions of Finale 2010 to assist me in preparing PDF files from my scores at a professional level for my publisher
Walrus Music. In return, I'll offer my services as an arranging -orchestrating advisor /coach for those of you who haven't had the experience with writing for live orchestras that I've had the past 45 years. I am fairly familiar with almost all styles of electro /acoustic arranging -from jazz to full film orchestra.

There will most likely not be much tight deadline work involved , but reasonable response time, enthustiastic participation, and professional looking work is a must.

So: if any of y'all here ( or your friends ) fit these specs, and would be interested in exploring this
arrangement ( no pun intended ) further, contact me here -or respond by email :

[e-mail]

.. and we can discuss all this in greater detail.

[Simon Godden]

Phil, I think maybe I can help you. I've had to get two scores of my own up to professional standard on Finale 2010 myself for entry into a competition. Feel free to take a look at the examples..... hold on, I can't attach a file here. Wait a minute, I'll e-mail you.

[phil Kelly]

Deadlines would generally be pretty loose ( say a month or so ), but accuracy and proofing for the inevitable "finale oopses" would be quite important.
If I do embark on this venture, it would not be until fall at the earliest. ( Also there's nothing that wouldn't limit this to just one participant.

[H. Archibald]

I may be able to help depending on the time restrictions. I have been using Finale since 1997/98. Right now I am quite busy with my own projects. When are you looking to start this whole intern process and how tight do you expect the deadlines to be?

[Simon Godden]

I'd love to help Phil, but I've had Finale 2010 for a year now, and I'm an eon away from mastering it yet.. I've even bought Notion 3 (another notation package) to keep me going in the interim.

[phil Kelly]

Hmm ..I don't know if Print music 2010 can read a full Finale file or not ( I assume the reverse would be true ) .Maybe you could get the tech support folks in Bangladesh to clarify the point before proceeding further. :)

[Chris Rodier]

I'd love to. I don't know that my skills are up to par though. I also only own Finale Printmusic 2010, so only 24 Staff lines.

[Chris Alpiar]

The ceilings in the main room must be around 30' high or so, there is a balcony that runs around the main space accessible from upstairs so its 2 stories of high celings. My space is really nice, its roughly 25' wide by 20' deep and half way back has a step up and a producers desk and the ceiling slants higher as it goes back, lots of nice acoustic treatments, etc. I will take photos and post with the install photos later this week, you can see my room ;-) Its very cool to be wired directly into the big room with that beauty C7, I am itching to do some big band recording in there.

[phil Kelly]

Hi Chris:

Actually, for the short term, my regular guy Steve can handle some of my projects as long as they dont involve deadlines ( which as you know, I avoid like poison ) but he doen't wanna do any more of the publishing stuff ( which can get pretty nit -picky sometimes )

BTW: Gotcher postcard of the new Atlanta studio -man those ceilings look HIGH! how big is your space ?

[Chris Alpiar]

Man I wish I had better finale chops or I would do it for you Phil! Just FYI people, working with Phil is a REAL TREASURE TROVE, this guy is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced jazz, pops and orchestral arrangers around today. I have learned TONS from working with Phil on projects and I guarantee you it will be a great experience if you jump in with him. Good luck with it Phil.

If you get stuck let me know, I had an intern in Ohio that did my copyist work for my sessions and he was pretty green but he worked hard and happily corrected all his errors in a timely fashion. I could hook you up with him, but I dont think he is pursuing composing and would get the benefits of working with you that many young guys who are composers would.

[phil Kelly]

Pete:

that's my point in posting my proposal here. Since practically everything I do these days at some point ( or totally ) involves internet transmission and /or communication, it really doesn't matter what the physical location of the editor/
copyist / apprentice may be. The only "musts" are the program involved ( in my case. Finale 2010 ) have an internet connection capable of dealing with the files
and the ability to communicate in English :)

As it is now, I have professional copyist /editors in both NY and LA who can take my score , prepare it in any format and if necessary, print it out and have it messengered anywhere in the city if necessary.

As for the learning part of the deal, the participating student can send me a Finale file of his score and his specific questions. In many cases, I could amplify my answer by simply doing an overlay on another layer to illustrate what I might be communicating. ( or, for a more complex problem, create a new Finale example in return to illustrate my suggestions. )