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Rustic Waltz
Started this discussion. Last reply by Saul Dzorelashvili Apr 7. 10 Replies 0 Likes
American Songs
Started this discussion. Last reply by Saul Dzorelashvili Mar 2. 3 Replies 0 Likes
'Nuff Said
Started this discussion. Last reply by Fredrick zinos Dec 15, 2012. 4 Replies 0 Likes
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"Firmly committed."
"Sure Ill give it a shot."
"To point out the obvious. Beethoven's thematic material, such as a simple arpagiated Eb major chord or 3 Gs and an Eb may seem to be less elegant than the thematic material of other composers. So what? its what he does with this material that…"
""Well, to me that last movement is trite poetry on a banal melody with simplistic harmonies"
as opposed to...?"
"LVB 5th had the same effect on the audience that Le Sacre had. Listen to nothing but Haydn and Mozart for a month then try the Beethoven 5th and you'll see why the audience was upset.
RE: Tchiakovsky PC#1 Some number of decades ago it…"
"well even Haydn's Farewell symphony may be seen as political as well as the Brandenburg concertos, trying to curry favor with the Margarve .. that is try to curry favor and not curry flavor."
"Michael,
I guess one could argue that Beethoven's 9th has a political message.. all that about men being brothers and so on. Is that a waste of time?"
Profile Information
- What have you composed for? Or what medium do you work around?
- Choir, Orchestra, Small Ensemble, Big Ensemble, Songs
- What is your favorite genre or style of music?
- Post minimalist
- Is music your main income source?
- No - Not at all.
- Where do you live?
- Graegle CA
- About Me (MUST be more than 10 words to be approved):
- I am an old geezer. I can remember all the way back to the '60's and before. It was terrible when the North and the South started shooting at each other like that. I am not a musician, nor do I play one on TV. I just like hanging out with them. You may think that strange, but I don't play golf either and yet I like living in golfing communities.
In my checkered past I've managed to meet both Stravinsky and Hindemith. And a few others. Of all the musicians I've met, I am convinced that only two could actually look at a score and "hear" it. One was Hindemith, the other was Fritz Reiner. Stravinsky said he couldn't do it, he was sure he was just "remembering" the music prompted by the sight of the notes on the page.
Now, don't get me wrong, I was all set to have a huge career in music, but then at the last minute I remembered that I have no talent and no ambition, a fact to which my compositions abundantly testify. The knowledge of my preordained failure in this art has, I am sure, saved me from considerable misery.But its a big world and I managed to get into the pharmaceutical business creating all sorts of dangerous and useless but highly profitable drugs.Pharmaceutical science suited me well, it is a field in which absence of talent and ambition, slovenly work habits and a general disregard for logical thinking are considered assets, much like holding high public office, I suppose.
Gentle reader, you will find this hard to believe, but I am so old that I recall sitting around a campfire roasting marshmallows and discussing the chaos into which chant had fallen, with no less than my old pal Pope Greg VI. Pope Greg was an excellent tennis player, by the way. If the universe would have looped around a little differently it would have been fun to see him take on Arnold Schoenberg. Well anyway, someone suggested the Greg codify all those chants to make them more recognizable, which, during the off-season, he did. They caught on like wildfire. Soon I noticed that I couldn't go anywhere without hearing them. Baptisms, weddings funerals, lynchings were all accompanied by that wonderful Greco-Roman palaver.
My next encounter took place a few years later. The then Pope, I think it was Julius, had assigned Monteverdi to guard Palestrina. This made sense. Palestrina was a good 3 point man shooting from the corners, but Monteverdi was taller and had an uncanny way of blocking shots without drawing a foul. Nonetheless, Palestrina still scored more than one would have imagined, him being only a little taller than Kernis. Then one day Monteverdi showed up on the court with an invention, a strange looking shoe. Yes, he had invented the tennis shoe, and it made a big impression. You could hear him running up and down the court, Screech -Slap, Screech-Slap, Screech-Slap.. he had only invented ONE shoe. Two part inventions didn't come along until Bach's time.
I dozed off and missed a lot but managed to revive myself so as to spend some time with a student of Mozart, namely Hummel. I am amazed to this day how he managed to turn out so much fine music and still have time for the figurines.
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What is Classical Music?
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 1:27pm 7 Comments 0 Likes
I see the term "classical music" used with varying intent so I thought I would ask what the term means, or what you think it means.
Is classial music that body of work written in Europe between 1750 and 1830? Is it music that is kept alive because of performing traditions? Does the meaning of "classical music" change with the location of the music? Are Japanese Gagaku and Persian Radif examples of classical music? By "classical" do we mean music that has an intent other than…
ContinueRecommended Reading
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:00pm 7 Comments 0 Likes
Alex Ross' "The Rest is Noise" Picador books $20.00. Amazing insights and connections with the "real world" and the world of music from 1900 to 2011. Something new on every page.
Life as it Is
Posted on September 6, 2009 at 9:19pm 6 Comments 0 Likes
May I recommend that you spend 7 minutes listening to "life as its" by composer Sherif Abraham. Creatively first rate. Very inventive and exciting with just enough contrast to make the composition, though short, satisfying and complete within itself. The orchestration is deft and the handling of instruments appears more than competent.
If I were to characterize this work, it sounded to my ear like a cross between John Wiliams and John Adams both at the very top of their game, and yet… Continue
If I were to characterize this work, it sounded to my ear like a cross between John Wiliams and John Adams both at the very top of their game, and yet… Continue
American Songs
Posted on August 25, 2009 at 7:31pm 0 Comments 0 Likes
Richard Schletty, a first rate musician and all round nice guy, was kind enough to make an MP3 of my American Songs and load it onto my home page.
Orchestra: 2222/2200.Timpani Strings. Duration 12 minutes.
I hope you enjoy it.
For some really good music please visit Richard Schletty's home page.
Thanks
Orchestra: 2222/2200.Timpani Strings. Duration 12 minutes.
I hope you enjoy it.
For some really good music please visit Richard Schletty's home page.
Thanks
Comment Wall (260 comments)
- At 12:06am on March 8, 2013,
Janet Spangenberg said… Hey, Fredrick... I spent some time listening to your music today. I especially liked your "Scherzo 1882 for Wind Quintet", "American Songs", and "Statements for Clarinet and String Trio". Great stuff!
- At 3:39pm on November 25, 2012,
Diane Webster said… Thank you for your comment! I'm still getting used to using the VSTs on Cubase to achieve the sounds I want but it's getting easier with every composition :-)
- At 1:15am on November 2, 2012,
Doug Lauber said… fredrick- I just got home at 11 PM, checking the internet...wow! Thanks for the support, I appreciate it. I'm trying to do the best I can with help from my friends ...and just maybe the album will reach a high standard, provide some good entertainment. Thanks again for the encouragement- It means a lot coming from you.
- At 6:29pm on October 28, 2012,
Fernando Vazquez said… Thank you Frederick for your comments on my Variations..I sincerely appreciate your input....I will eventually get to the impressionistic period...but I must make a stop first on the romantics.....thanks for listening....
- At 6:50pm on September 12, 2012,
James Gall said… - Frederick
Mark Nicol suggested I make contact with you. I have read your background and your essay on life in your CF bio and I don't know how old you are but I am a new composer, started 4 years ago and I am 60. Although i studied music in my younger days i, like you had a large part of my life life.making a living largely away from music. My grand plan was to retire "young" to allow me to concentrate my life back in music which idid 4 years ago. I have recently completed my first real work which I have called Piano Concerto no 1. I have it posted on my home page. Mark has heard and commented on it as you could see on my home page and he has recommended I chat with you which I am doing now.
Regards - James Gall - Adelaide, South Australia
- At 1:09am on June 11, 2012,
August Champlin said… Thanks for your comments on Cor Agitur! You're absolutely right. I need to develop this brief exercise into a fully fleshed-out piece with a contrasting theme. It's really not far out at all, by modern standards. Nonetheless, except even doing this much pushed me way beyond what I thought I would ever do. Still, I'm glad you thought it held together. Unity and coherence are important ideals for me, even in "experimental" music.
- At 2:01pm on May 6, 2012, August Champlin said…
It's interesting that you should write, "I only wish I had your skill and talent," to me, because I wish I had your adventurous way with harmony. I am glad that there is a Fredrick Zinos lending his voice to the musical arts.
- At 11:31am on May 4, 2012, August Champlin said…
Despite the self-disparagement in your profile with regard to your talent, I think you write with an interesting voice. Your music is harmonically adventurous, fluent, and structurally sound. Well done!
- At 5:51pm on January 14, 2012,
Paulo cesar Maia de Aguiar (Br) said… Wonderful Works
- At 11:11am on January 14, 2012,
Sylvester Wager said… Three Easy Pieces, currently the first track:
Here, I thought I began to hear harmonic limitations, and was going to suggest that you steal copiously from jazz (four and five, even six note chords). But now we are moving along into the piece, and I see that you have a wide range of harmonies available to you.
You're bluffing. You know more than you let on. You understand balance, form, texture, voice-leading. Your harmonies are not tradtional, not exactly, but as we all know, strictly traditional harmonies are verboten in 2012.
Now I am into your orchestral work, track 2: you put a lot of work into it, and it's better than a lot of stuff I hear routinely on these sorts of websites. It has a real easy program to follow, which is completely intentional. I'm still not sure, and I think it's funny that I'm not sure how much you really understand harmony. I think you have a fantastic ear, which beats pedantry any day.
Further along in that same orchestral work, I am a little lost in the extended development, in the sense that you might have lost the sense of balance. (who hasn't?) But maybe not: as you say, critics are wrong (almost) every time.
I'm waiting for the finish: it happened fast. You have a trove of great ideas in that Essay.
...By the way, no one has it right about Pope Greg VI. He ordered people around of course, and tried to get the Mass, the liturgy sorted out by delegating. Those chants took a long time to coalesce into "Gregorian-mix" - and as usual, those in power took advantage of the situation. Chants still exist, such as Milanese, Ambrosian, Syriac, Sarum, but they were officially drowned out by mandates - or became part of the East-West church-split debacle.
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