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Fredrick zinos
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Rustic Waltz

Started this discussion. Last reply by Saul Dzorelashvili Apr 7. 10 Replies

American Songs

Started this discussion. Last reply by Saul Dzorelashvili Mar 2. 3 Replies

'Nuff Said

Started this discussion. Last reply by Fredrick zinos Dec 15, 2012. 4 Replies

 

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Fredrick zinos replied to Lawrence Aurich's discussion "Amen," Handel got it wrong!
"Having been to Hanover any number of times I can understand H's (Handel, not Hitler) desire to be anywhere else. Even the weather in England is preferable to that of lower Saxony."
16 hours ago
Fredrick zinos replied to Lawrence Aurich's discussion "Amen," Handel got it wrong!
"And in Bach there is an almost Saul-like humility.. JSB said "anyone could get as far if they worked as hard." If that's really true then I must have been asleep all my life.   Agree with you there are others with as much…"
19 hours ago
Fredrick zinos replied to Lawrence Aurich's discussion "Amen," Handel got it wrong!
"Haydn told Leopold Mozart, Wolfgang's father, "Sir your son is the greatest musical talent I have ever encountered."   But there were times when Mozart was put in awe of other composers. Despite the  childish impression…"
20 hours ago
Fredrick zinos replied to Bob Porter's discussion What's wrong with us?
"Bob, We well you are right about the San Diego weather. They idiots in Sacramento keep claiming the taxes are high here because they say they use those tax dollars to keep the weather nice. And since they've cut the school budget and…"
20 hours ago
Fredrick zinos replied to Lawrence Aurich's discussion "Amen," Handel got it wrong!
"I think LVB studied but briefly with Haydn (for about 3-4 years Haydn, Beethoven and Schubert lived only a few miles from each other in Vienna.. there was apparently something in the water. Beethoven admired Haydn, Haydn shows ever indication…"
yesterday
Fredrick zinos replied to Vivaldi's discussion A short concerto grosso
"what is going on with the second violins? div a 3?  Does Vivaldi or any 17th-18th century composer do that? I appreciate your attempts to emulate Vivaldi or Albinoni or Corelli or Tartini, but what is your purpose for doing so?"
yesterday
Fredrick zinos replied to Lawrence Aurich's discussion "Amen," Handel got it wrong!
"It might have been Saul, but since Saul was and is, by his own reckoning,  a much greater composer than Handel it is unlikely that he would have said he learned anything from Handel. An interesting statement that can be interpreted to mean…"
yesterday
Fredrick zinos replied to Lawrence Aurich's discussion "Amen," Handel got it wrong!
"It was Beethoven. At his death LVB owned very few possession but he DID own just of the music of Handel that had been published up to that time. I agree, you don't hear Handel in LVB, the clever cadences for example, but you can hear the…"
yesterday

Profile Information

What have you composed for? Or what medium do you work around?
Choir, Orchestra, Small Ensemble, Big Ensemble, Songs
What is your favorite genre or style of music?
Post minimalist
Is music your main income source?
No - Not at all.
Where do you live?
Graegle CA
About Me (MUST be more than 10 words to be approved):
I am an old geezer. I can remember all the way back to the '60's and before. It was terrible when the North and the South started shooting at each other like that. I am not a musician, nor do I play one on TV. I just like hanging out with them. You may think that strange, but I don't play golf either and yet I like living in golfing communities.

In my checkered past I've managed to meet both Stravinsky and Hindemith. And a few others. Of all the musicians I've met, I am convinced that only two could actually look at a score and "hear" it. One was Hindemith, the other was Fritz Reiner. Stravinsky said he couldn't do it, he was sure he was just "remembering" the music prompted by the sight of the notes on the page.

Now, don't get me wrong, I was all set to have a huge career in music, but then at the last minute I remembered that I have no talent and no ambition, a fact to which my compositions abundantly testify. The knowledge of my preordained failure in this art has, I am sure, saved me from considerable misery.But its a big world and I managed to get into the pharmaceutical business creating all sorts of dangerous and useless but highly profitable drugs.Pharmaceutical science suited me well, it is a field in which absence of talent and ambition, slovenly work habits and a general disregard for logical thinking are considered assets, much like holding high public office, I suppose.

Gentle reader, you will find this hard to believe, but I am so old that I recall sitting around a campfire roasting marshmallows and discussing the chaos into which chant had fallen, with no less than my old pal Pope Greg VI. Pope Greg was an excellent tennis player, by the way. If the universe would have looped around a little differently it would have been fun to see him take on Arnold Schoenberg. Well anyway, someone suggested the Greg codify all those chants to make them more recognizable, which, during the off-season, he did. They caught on like wildfire. Soon I noticed that I couldn't go anywhere without hearing them. Baptisms, weddings funerals, lynchings were all accompanied by that wonderful Greco-Roman palaver.

My next encounter took place a few years later. The then Pope, I think it was Julius, had assigned Monteverdi to guard Palestrina. This made sense. Palestrina was a good 3 point man shooting from the corners, but Monteverdi was taller and had an uncanny way of blocking shots without drawing a foul. Nonetheless, Palestrina still scored more than one would have imagined, him being only a little taller than Kernis. Then one day Monteverdi showed up on the court with an invention, a strange looking shoe. Yes, he had invented the tennis shoe, and it made a big impression. You could hear him running up and down the court, Screech -Slap, Screech-Slap, Screech-Slap.. he had only invented ONE shoe. Two part inventions didn't come along until Bach's time.

I dozed off and missed a lot but managed to revive myself so as to spend some time with a student of Mozart, namely Hummel. I am amazed to this day how he managed to turn out so much fine music and still have time for the figurines.

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What is Classical Music?

Posted on March 2, 2012 at 1:27pm 7 Comments

I see the term "classical music" used with varying intent so I thought I would ask what the term means, or what you think it means.

 

Is classial music that body of work written in Europe between 1750 and 1830? Is it music that is kept alive because of performing traditions? Does the meaning of "classical music" change with the location of the music? Are Japanese  Gagaku and Persian Radif examples of classical music? By "classical" do we mean music that has an intent other than…

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Recommended Reading

Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:00pm 7 Comments

Alex Ross' "The Rest is Noise" Picador books $20.00. Amazing insights and connections with the "real world" and the world of music from 1900 to 2011. Something new on every page.

Life as it Is

Posted on September 6, 2009 at 9:19pm 6 Comments

May I recommend that you spend 7 minutes listening to "life as its" by composer Sherif Abraham. Creatively first rate. Very inventive and exciting with just enough contrast to make the composition, though short, satisfying and complete within itself. The orchestration is deft and the handling of instruments appears more than competent.



If I were to characterize this work, it sounded to my ear like a cross between John Wiliams and John Adams both at the very top of their game, and yet… Continue

American Songs

Posted on August 25, 2009 at 7:31pm 0 Comments

Richard Schletty, a first rate musician and all round nice guy, was kind enough to make an MP3 of my American Songs and load it onto my home page.

Orchestra: 2222/2200.Timpani Strings. Duration 12 minutes.

I hope you enjoy it.

For some really good music please visit Richard Schletty's home page.

Thanks

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At 12:59am on June 11, 2013, michael diemer said…

Fred, I just read your Bio. It triggered a laughing attack that almost went into an asthma attack. I demand that you mail me an inhaler, or other suitable pharmacological agent.

At 9:40pm on May 22, 2013, Lawrence Aurich said…

Fredrick,

    The quality of posts has been flagging lately.  How about posting something.  Something old?  We new comers would like to hear more of your work.

Lawrence Aurich

At 12:06am on March 8, 2013, Janet Spangenberg said…

Hey, Fredrick... I spent some time listening to your music today. I especially liked your "Scherzo 1882 for Wind Quintet", "American Songs", and "Statements for Clarinet and String Trio". Great stuff!

At 3:39pm on November 25, 2012, Diane Webster said…

Thank you for your comment! I'm still getting used to using the VSTs on Cubase to achieve the sounds I want but it's getting easier with every composition :-)

At 1:15am on November 2, 2012, Doug Lauber said…

fredrick- I just got home at 11 PM, checking the internet...wow! Thanks for the support, I appreciate it. I'm trying to do the best I can with help from my friends ...and just maybe the album will reach a high standard, provide some good entertainment. Thanks again for the encouragement- It means a lot coming from you.

At 6:29pm on October 28, 2012, Fernando Vazquez said…

Thank you Frederick for your comments on my Variations..I sincerely appreciate your input....I will eventually get to the impressionistic period...but I must make a stop first on the romantics.....thanks for listening....

At 6:50pm on September 12, 2012, James Gall said…
Frederick
Mark Nicol suggested I make contact with you. I have read your background and your essay on life in your CF bio and I don't know how old you are but I am a new composer, started 4 years ago and I am 60. Although i studied music in my younger days i, like you had a large part of my life life.making a living largely away from music. My grand plan was to retire "young" to allow me to concentrate my life back in music which idid 4 years ago. I have recently completed my first real work which I have called Piano Concerto no 1. I have it posted on my home page. Mark has heard and commented on it as you could see on my home page and he has recommended I chat with you which I am doing now.
Regards - James Gall - Adelaide, South Australia
At 1:09am on June 11, 2012, August Champlin said…

Thanks for your comments on Cor Agitur! You're absolutely right. I need to develop this brief exercise into a fully fleshed-out piece with a contrasting theme. It's really not far out at all, by modern standards. Nonetheless, except even doing this much pushed me way beyond what I thought I would ever do. Still, I'm glad you thought it held together. Unity and coherence are important ideals for me, even in "experimental" music.

At 2:01pm on May 6, 2012, August Champlin said…

It's interesting that you should write, "I only wish I had your skill and talent," to me, because I wish I had your adventurous way with harmony. I am glad that there is a Fredrick Zinos lending his voice to the musical arts. 

At 11:31am on May 4, 2012, August Champlin said…

Despite the self-disparagement in your profile with regard to your talent, I think you write with an interesting voice. Your music is harmonically adventurous, fluent, and structurally sound. Well done! 

 
 
 

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