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Real metric modulation?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ethan Moore Jan 19. 10 Replies

Does anyone know of any techniques for modulating from one time signature to another, without changing tempo? (Mostly when people say "metric modulation" what they really mean is something more like…Continue

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Ethan Moore replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Hello again everyone, Thanks very much for sharing your ideas -- it's been very helpful! Greg, that's a very good suggestion about using harmonic rhythm -- thanks very much, it never occurred to me. Your first point raises the old question…"
Jan 19
Greg Brus replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Okay, it really seems as simple as it sounds. I suspected that when you said "no tempo change", what you really had in mind was "no change to the time length of the measure" (so that the spacing of "one" beats remains…"
Jan 18
Mike Hewer replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"it is an interesting idea and one that has creative potential. Again in the spirit of pivoting, you could perhaps have the transition bars in 7/8 which is the intermediary signature between 3/4 and 4/4. Passage work in 3/4 could then be subverted by…"
Jan 18
Gav Brown replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Hi Ethan, this is what I do, and I think it is fair to say that I jump around a lot more than even Brubeck (I am quite familiar with the Time Out album). I think the key thing is that if you do it well, the average non-composer listener will have…"
Jan 17
Ethan Moore replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Hello everyone, Thanks very much for the input, especially your comments, Mike. I wish I had some examples, but the reason I started the discussion is because the idea doesn't seem to be very popular, and I couldn't find any music or…"
Jan 17
Mike Hewer replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Well it sounds easy enough and can be done by beaming i.e. keeping  beaming and/or accent/phrasing, consistent with 3/4  in  the 4/4 bars. John has mentioned phase music, but you have said you do not want to change tempo (nor,…"
Jan 17
John Driscoll replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Maybe you are not thinking in a minimalist style, but this sounds a bit to me like some of Steve Reich's phase music? https://youtu.be/57TuvksMR70"
Jan 16
Greg Brus replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Do you have any example in already existing music for what you have in mind? I have a feeling I get what you're trying to say (and the way you're saying it feels a bit confusing, actually), but want to confirm with some listening if you…"
Jan 16
Ethan Moore replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Hi Mike, Thanks for your response. A simple example of what I had in mind was going from 3/4 to 4/4, similar to going from I to V in tonal music. One way to do it would be to have a phrase in 3/4, then put a polymetric passage (as a transition…"
Jan 16
Mike Hewer replied to Ethan Moore's discussion Real metric modulation?
"Hi Ethan, Could you be a bit more specific, what are you trying to achieve? As you no doubt know, you can change to virtually any time signature whilst keeping a constant pulse, as often and as varied as you like (so long as it's playable and…"
Jan 16
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Real metric modulation?

Does anyone know of any techniques for modulating from one time signature to another, without changing tempo? (Mostly when people say "metric modulation" what they really mean is something more like "tempo modulation with or without change of meter.") I mean composers who do it, or academics who write about it, etc. Thanks very much for any input -- it's no fun re-inventing the wheel!See More
Jan 16

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What have you composed for? Or what medium do you work around?
Orchestra, Small Ensemble
What is your favorite genre or style of music?
Contemporary
Is music your main income source?
No - Not at all.
Where do you live?
Louisville, KY
About Me (Must include biographical information about you as a composer):
"Self-taught" for several years now.

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