"I struggle with my music sounding 'rigid'. It happens all the time - very frustrating. On the other hand, if it wasn't for the mass of music software available, those of us who will never have a career in music, doing what we love…"
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How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Rus White Jan 22, 2012. 60 Replies 0 Likes
Just a simple question. With all of the software capabilities, music has evolved to a precision that, in my opinion, could go to far. What are your thoughts on this?
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Beth Patterson replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?
Doug Lauber replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"Very true, Jerry.
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Doug Lauber replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"Everything I do is within a tempered scale. ...and perfect time sounds too rigid. Now a perfect concept is a worthwhile goal."
Lennart Östman replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"Another important question is what kind of music are we talking about? I know that a lot, if not most people in here are into orchestral music and spotless digital mockups, but the idea of a "perfect" Bruce Springsteen recording is…"
"Someone said that amount of imperfection allowable is "none," and presented an anology asking how much dust should be allows in a clean room.
Clean room doesn’t allow any dust? What kind of clean room would that be?…"
Simon Godden replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?" "Can a being be omniscient? A hypothetically omniscient consciousness would, by definition, never know the experience of not knowing. Similarly, one can only arrive at the conclusion that "not knowing" is not a…"
Lennart Östman replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"True! A lot of the problematic stiffness in a sequencer recording comes from the tone itself having a very limited variation. If one could build an electronic instrument that had the same ability to vary the tone as a acoustic instrument have, it…"
Lennart Östman replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"A melody is a melody, but the performance of it can make a huge difference. It's all those small nuances and shiftings in timing that makes a melody come alive. If you record it in a sequencer and quantize it, you will flatten it to various…"
Doug Lauber replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"Good ideas. I find it difficult implementing tempo changes. I need to experiment and work on that area."
Chris Alpiar replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"For this reason is the hate portion of my relationship with technology. But this is why sequenced music will never ever replace the real deal. And this is also why we all need to as composers remember that music is a live organic HUMAN event, and…"
Doug Lauber replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"I agree totally, Lennart. I also use a similar quantization strategy. A good groove is always a little bit loose, sloppy... Today's music technology is a collection of amazing tools."
Lennart Östman replied to Bill Ricci's discussion How much imperfection should we allow in "perfect" music?"Recorded electronic music can be quantized and fiddled with to death. Music is something organic and there is nothing to state that electronic music can't be organic too. I never quantize anything to 100% because then it will not be organic any…"
David Reynolds replied to Bill Ricci's discussion Rock is everything. in the group Rock composers"Who's downplaying rock music!?? I want names!! :)"
Bill Ricci replied to Cornelis Jordaan's discussion What comes first - the notes, or the time signature?"For me ,even before the notes, a calm quiet. Searching inward. Many times looking in so far that I see and feel the parts of me I hate..or love. These feelings wear vibrations(pitch) but are much older than the notes that represent them. On the…"
Bill Ricci added a discussion to the group Rock composers
Rock is everything.
I joined this group without the thought of being a "rock" composer but more for the spirit that rock is. I love jazz and blues as well as classical and new age and hear elements of rock in all of them. To me it isn't fair to downplay rock to a straight 4/4 with distortion. Instead I view it as an attitude or spirit as I mentioned before. With that said John Cash is rock all the way in my book!
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- What have you composed for? Or what medium do you work around?
- Multimedia, Songs, Other
- What is your favorite genre or style of music?
- I was raised with the rule that there are two types of music: Good and the other. I love all good music.
- Is music your main income source?
- Yes!
- Where do you live?
- Utica,Illinois
- About Me (MUST be more than 10 words to be approved):
- I have been a gigging musician for the last 10 years. I don't want to glorify that because it hasn't always been easy. I would love to write music for film/television.
- Website:
- http://billriccijr.yolasite.com
Comment Wall (16 comments)
- At 8:56pm on August 24, 2011,
Paulo cesar Maia de Aguiar (Br) said… - GREAT Works
- At 10:54am on November 26, 2010,
Miguel Hilao said… - Hi Bill Good work I like your ideas. Stay Creative!
- At 11:14pm on October 24, 2010,
David Naranjo said… - Deep, quiteness, full of positiveness, energizing & joyful! great work, Bill!
- At 12:16am on October 12, 2010,
Matt Walsh said… - Yea, the blues is in my soul for sure. I taught myself harmonica, play piano, drums, and I sing. Sing primarily and piano as a secondary (right now, a year ago I would have said harp was my primary). I'm just starting to 'compose' really. I mean I've got my share of songs and progressions, but I am just now starting to think about parts and notation and whatnot. I've been much more about improvising than composing up till now. But yea if it grooves or has soul I'm a fan of it pretty much...funk, fusion, swing, big band, latin, r&b, etc. Right now John Medeski is my lord and personal savior, he's just like on whole other plane of existence ha. Let me know next time your in and I'll try and make it out to see you. Theres a bunch of bars in my neighborhood too, I could try and set you up something if you want... At the very least I could tell you my opinion of the better bars to play and do some grass-roots type promo for ya. Cheers!
- At 2:42am on October 11, 2010, Matt Walsh said…
- Hey hey Utica! I like your stuff very tasteful on the melodic side, very tasteful. You gig in the city much? Your probably out to the quad cities a lot too. I used to go to school in D-port.
- At 6:34pm on September 29, 2010, Simon Godden said…
- Hi Bill, just listened to ''Jack's Planet'' (now on ''Around Third Movement''). When you say you've gigged for the last 10 years, am I right in assuming that you're a drummer. The middle section of ''Jack's Planet'' is very detailed percussion-wise and really lifts the melody. It sounds as if you really know your way around a trap-set. Although it sounds very incidental (which I think is possibly your intention as you say you wish to be a media composer), I enjoyed it. It is certainly original, with some great poly rhythms. There wasn't really enough of ''Around Third Movement'' to get to grips with, but I look forward to hearing more of your work as time passes.
- At 9:27am on September 29, 2010, Simon Godden said…
- Thanks for the add Bill. I'll take a listen to your music when I have time. Feel free to listen to mine whenever you have a spare moment. I'd be happy to know what you think.
- At 7:42pm on September 28, 2010,
Jason Ward said… - The final recording device is a 24-bit sound blaster, but all my synths and effects are patched with 1/4 inch cables through a Mackie mixer before being sent to the computer.
- At 11:37am on September 28, 2010, Jason Ward said…
- All the music and effects are produced by hardware synthesizers and digital effects units. The only 2 things I use the computer for are the sequencing / notation software and to record the final track for release. Both the Roland D-20 and the Roland VJ-1080 produce some nice analogue style sounds, and I used both synths in "Soames Hill".
- At 6:10pm on September 27, 2010, Jason Ward said…
- Thanks Bill, I appreciate your kind comment. =)
Your music is nice and relaxing, kinda reminds me of Kitaro infused with a little Tangerine Dream or Animusic a bit.
~ Jason
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