Hi Aaron...

[SEDstar]

...Tombo has me waxing nostagic, and there has been loose talk about making stuff that we like personally. This would be the sort of thing that I liked when i was young. This style of music is no longer popular on the radio, but, I find that a pity.

 

and, I think I broke a nail... geez...

 

anyways, you guys can laugh at this, I'm sure. When I was young, there was this swedish guitarist called Yngwie Johann Malmsteen...  we all THOUGHT we had heard fast riffs from Eddie Van Halen, then that swedish guy came along. We were blown away, as teenagers. (There was also a guy called Paul Gilbert, his band was RacerX, but... they never toured... Paul Gilbert grew up about 40-45 minutes from where I live)

 

What was so funny you can all laugh at, was we all wondered how in the *&^% Yngwie could SOUND like he did... and there was a "well known fact" stated often enough that he could DO what he did, because he used "those classical scales".

 

When i got into music, first thing I did was look up "classical scales". I just HAD to find these cool scales Yngwie used, you know. This was the secret stuff, you know?

 

never could find the darn things, LMAO, they dont exist... about a year ago I quit "looking", i was just sure there was SOMEthing special for classical scales... LMAO... MAY-be I was supposed to put two other scales together? No... that wasnt a technique...

 

LMAO... ended up being a common layman's misconception that cool guitar dudes use "classical" scales... *shrugs* go ahead, laugh... I did...

[Les Harper]

ummmm. . . .What scales are not classical? Pentatonic? Blues? Some jazz scales, I suppose.

[Lasse Elkjaer]

Cm - Ab - Fm - G chord progression and shred away in C minor scale (harmonic minor) instant yngwie stuff ;-)

[SEDstar]

lasse, I will TRY that next time, lol...

it seems normal to me every once in a while to try to make some kind of heavy metal on the computer, I grew up on the stuff.

if you thought that mp3 I posted was bad, dont worry, there were some earlier attempts that failed even more miserably, lol

but, even when experiments go "awry" as this one has, lol... there's usually SOMEthing useful in them... here, I kind of liked the lowest "chugging" sound... thought maybe something could be designed around that low chugging sound , maybe... Iwanna say that was 3rd octave F, but, dont quote me...

BTW, Yngwie tabs leave something to be desired, lol... namely accuracy, LMAO...

I like to try to do the sweeps between chords, but, its hard to work that into a track without it being metal...

Uh, is this forum only "rock", or can one post one minute attempts at lighter fare too? I practice writing "one minute test lines" of whaat I could call soft rock, but... its more like AC...

[Lennart Östman]

I like that music. Very cool classical scales actually : ) But I think you can loose the drums. The guitar is strong enough to stand for itself.

[SEDstar]

thanks lennart...

 

Hm. "classical scales", eh? LMAO... given the discussion, I think I decided something... the next time in real life that someone asks me "how did you MAKE that?", no matter whatEVER it is, I am going to say...

 

"You have to use CLASSICAL scales, dude..."

 

hee hee... if they ask me to expain that, I'll just smile and say "I wouldnt know where to begin... just look up "music theory" on WIkipedia... you'll find the classical scales eventually, that way..."

 

LMAO... I still remember a few different people told me it wasnt the notes themselves that were important, it was actually the space inbetween the notes that was important... then predictably, once I had a laymans grasp of pitch, scale, interval... it all began to make a tiny bit of sense...

 

I figure this would be in the same vein, if it would encourage an "ear only" player and writer to keep looking up stuff, trying to find "classical" scales, lol...

 

I went and watched a Yngwie malmsteen interview video on YouTube... he's explaining some of his cool sweeps and arpeggiation techniques... and he says "now kids, I neednt explain this at all, if you learn theory... its root, third, fifth, octave... in every position you play it from..." LOL (he's just doing it very f-a-s-t, is all in that video...lol)

 

then he plays this one pattern, and says "I use this pattern a LOT on the new album... I mostly use it down, but you can use it UP too... like this... and thru different keys... I think it sounds rather 'Bach-y, wouldnt you say?" LOL

 

I'm not sure if I am happier hearing this, or... if its a bit of a let down... its kinda like "peeking behind the curtain" and finding out the great and powerful OZ is just a little green man with a microphone, lol... "they" (whoever 'they" really are, lol...) say you wouldnt really wanna know how government, or sausage are REALLY made... perhaps we can add "music" to that list too, eh? lol... its a lot of work, but its a satisfying hobby...

[Lennart Östman]

How about this then - the scale is only the route you take between the important notes. If you don't get the important notes right, it doesn't matter how fast you travel to get to them!