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Liszt.
Unless he really worked at it, (as in Les Preludes) it seems to me his very good themes went undeveloped and usually with disappointing results. Like purchasing a wonderful cut of meat and then preparing it badly, or buying very good vodka but a cheap vermouth. I know that Schoenberg said that Liszt was the doorway to modern music and maybe so if one ignores Ives /Burckner and a few others. Yes Liszt was one of the first to utilize many 20th century harmonic devices including parallel 7ths, but its not enough. His undercooked offerings, as far as I am concerned, are just not very satisfying.
Very difficult to judge Simon. Maybe Bach or Byrd, in my estimation.
Here's the worst opera I've ever seen. My ears are still bleeding and my brain is numb and shriveled. Here's why LA should not appear in the same sentence, nor in the same room, with the word "opera" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiOVFc_FW4w
And I think it was one Mr. Gino Cunico (please inform me if I'm wrong) behind the wah-wah craziness of this intro. It's so bad, it's good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNb1pgQlQo
Bach? I take it you mean Carl Phillip Emanuel.
Kristofer Emerig said:Very difficult to judge Simon. Maybe Bach or Byrd, in my estimation.
Here's the worst opera I've ever seen. My ears are still bleeding and my brain is numb and shriveled. Here's why LA should not appear in the same sentence, nor in the same room, with the word "opera" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiOVFc_FW4w
And I think it was one Mr. Gino Cunico (please inform me if I'm wrong) behind the wah-wah craziness of this intro. It's so bad, it's good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNb1pgQlQo
CPE is very underrated, though for a different type of music! I actually find his music to be pretty emotive as well, and preferable over other composers of the time such as Gluck depending on my mood.
Simon Godden said:Bach? I take it you mean Carl Phillip Emanuel.
Kristofer Emerig said:Very difficult to judge Simon. Maybe Bach or Byrd, in my estimation.
Here's the worst opera I've ever seen. My ears are still bleeding and my brain is numb and shriveled. Here's why LA should not appear in the same sentence, nor in the same room, with the word "opera" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiOVFc_FW4w
And I think it was one Mr. Gino Cunico (please inform me if I'm wrong) behind the wah-wah craziness of this intro. It's so bad, it's good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNb1pgQlQo
Liszt.
Unless he really worked at it, (as in Les Preludes) it seems to me his very good themes went undeveloped and usually with disappointing results. Like purchasing a wonderful cut of meat and then preparing it badly, or buying very good vodka but a cheap vermouth. I know that Schoenberg said that Liszt was the doorway to modern music and maybe so if one ignores Ives /Burckner and a few others. Yes Liszt was one of the first to utilize many 20th century harmonic devices including parallel 7ths, but its not enough. His undercooked offerings, as far as I am concerned, are just not very satisfying.
I cant stand Chopin, way too happy gimpy bleh. I absolutely love Rachmaninov tho! His orchestrations arent as deeply thought out for each instrument as some masters but he creates great melody and supports it with amazing piano parts
Simon mentioned CPE (Carl Philip Emanuel) Bach. And of course there was WF Bach. I don't know if i've related the story before, but in the halcyon days of my youth I studied the many non-musical sons of JS Bach
There was
CPA Bach, an accountant
CPR Bach, a para medic
CPU Bach, a computer repair person
CLU Bach, an insurance salesman.. (this son of a Bach actually did write some music but its all polytonal and way complicated)
and a few others
But my favorite was the Bach boy who moved to America, Virginia in fact, and became a tobacco farmer
LSMFT Bach
Simon mentioned CPE (Carl Philip Emanuel) Bach. And of course there was WF Bach. I don't know if i've related the story before, but in the halcyon days of my youth I studied the many non-musical sons of JS Bach
There was
CPA Bach, an accountant
CPR Bach, a para medic
CPU Bach, a computer repair person
CLU Bach, an insurance salesman.. (this son of a Bach actually did write some music but its all polytonal and way complicated)
and a few others
But my favorite was the Bach boy who moved to America, Virginia in fact, and became a tobacco farmer
LSMFT Bach
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