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This post is to announce our Winter Music Contest - members were asked to create a piece which evokes the idea of Winter. The rules of the contest are simple: any instrumentation, 7 minutes or less in duration. 16 members total submitted entries, making this one of the most-participated-in contests which I have run on this site! Please take some time to listen to these entries and vote your top three. The winners will have the honor of having their entries posted to the top of the home page of the site until the first day of summer! Please click the link below to cast your vote! Deadline is 2/14/2015 at 5 pm EST!!

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/R2733RF

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Entrants are encouraged to vote

No hurries, no worries, maybe they are just taking their time

to let all these fine efforts 'sink in' so they can make intelligent

choices. Maybe ? They do have 2 weeks.

If not, I checked and Vito has the 14th and 15th open on his

schedule to,shall we say, help them choose.

KPD-QE4, seems like, considering past contests , these composer folks have a

hard enough time participating even anonymously. So I doubt that spotlights

will help.Hopefully we are all honest enough to only vote once. Seems

pretty lowball to cheat a free open 'meritorious' (no $$) contest like this.

I have an extra set of darts if anyone needs help choosing.

and by the way, how much DO you want for your vote???  RS
 
Kristofer Emerig said:

Victor, how can we possibly implement such a policy here if there's no way of determining how many times, if at all, each person votes?

Furthermore, are we supposed to vote, politician-like, for ourselves? That just doesn't sit well with me.

Open, unconcealed vote, and you can't vote for your own work.. that seems the best way to me.

Call me crazy, call me KPDQE, just don't call me "late for dinner".

 

Oh and Roger, if you want intelligent choices from me, that'll require a minimum of four weeks, and even then, it's a crap shoot.
 
Victor Eijkhout said:

On a different forum there is a rule that if you don't vote, your entry is disqualified. Can we adopt that here? That should be a good way to get people to vote.....

V.

13 responses so far!

K, since you are 'open' about all this , what is your criteria

 and in what order of merit would you judge them by?

as in;   a list of qualities and such         I'm just curious   RS

# 1  for me will be capturing or reflecting the theme

# 2  I would say 'originality'

#3    etc.
 
Kristofer Emerig said:

Yes, I suppose that seems about right. Zinos has swept most of them, as I recall, and that's an indication that the process has probably been more or less fair.

I know exactly which one is yours, as well as the other "regulars" here. That's why I've refrained from voting on any of these so far. The pretense of my submission being in any way "anonymous" is of course offered only for your amusement. Many of these are quite good so I'll take some time to absorb them..   and watch the mail for any unexpected monetary gifts, not related to my decision making, of course.
 
roger stancill said:

KPD-QE4, seems like, considering past contests , these composer folks have a

hard enough time participating even anonymously. So I doubt that spotlights

will help.Hopefully we are all honest enough to only vote once. Seems

pretty lowball to cheat a free open 'meritorious' (no $$) contest like this.

I have an extra set of darts if anyone needs help choosing.

and by the way, how much DO you want for your vote???  RS
 



Kristofer Emerig said:

Furthermore, are we supposed to vote, politician-like, for ourselves? That just doesn't sit well with me.

Open, unconcealed vote, and you can't vote for your own work.. that seems the best way to me.

Completely agreed. Compulsory open vote, and of course not for yourself.

I hope at least the survey page records IP addresses as a minimal check against ballot stuffing.

Victor.



roger stancill said:

what is your criteria

 and in what order of merit would you judge them by?

You're not asking me, but....

  • originality
  • variety
  • match between form and content, also known as approprieteness of means employed.

V.

Victor, no, by all means, as they say, I think this can

help get the ball rolling in a bigger way. Thanks for the input.

(if anyone actually reads these blogs)   RS

Victor Eijkhout said:



roger stancill said:

what is your criteria

 and in what order of merit would you judge them by?

You're not asking me, but....

  • originality
  • variety
  • match between form and content, also known as approprieteness of means employed.

V.

FYI the survey does restrict voting to one per IP address. I don't have any problem with contestants voting, or voting for themselves -

PDQ, absolutely no debate, thanks for playing.

I am merely trying to 'prime the pump' so to speak,

and possibly make it easier for those who need

rules or guidelines , and to see if there are

common elements among those judging this.

Some will just listen while others will pore over

the PDF's..... to each his/her own.

When considering variety as a criterion perhaps we should bear in mind Schoenberg's words. "Variety must never endanger comprehensibility or logic"...which almost matches your third criterion. Of course lack of variety leads to repetition and boredom so a balance is needed between the two elements...because comprehensibility requires some repetition. Judging music on these merits helps to avoid the "it's not quite to my taste" syndrome which in my humble opinion is irrelevant.

SL

Bob, I agree with what I think you are saying-  tho' if I'm listening to the radio

for instance, and there's a tune played that I don't want to listen to, I can and

do simple change the station. But, in the case of a contest such as this, I will

listen whole-heartedly, and with an open mind try to discern the effort of each

contestant as equally and fair-minded as I can, trying to apply some sembance

of 'objectivity'. If it comes down to a tiebreaker, so to speak, then I will apply

personal taste, altho' I would include the 'human element' as part of my A list

of criteria. Does that make sense?       RS

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