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I don't know if anyone is interested in this. Not sure I am.

The question is: What are quantifiable bullet points that define contemporary music? Do they only apply to concert music, as opposed to something one might hear in a bar? I don't hang out in bars, but I saw one on TV once. Is it only bleeding edge (or bleeding ear)(oops, sorry) atonal-ism? Is it a rock band performing with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir (a real thing)? Is it 4'33? Or ten minutes of seven clarinets playing random overtones? And is it the same thing in different countries and cultures? 

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Roger,

This is the first line of the OP:

"The question is: What are quantifiable bullet points that define contemporary music?"

The title of the thread might be misleading, and not very good English. It doesn't make any difference because it is superseded by the actual question.

You brought up form and function. Then named some musical forms and some uses for them, and that throughout history these were at one time contemporary. Have I got it?

Perhaps you missed where I said I didn't mind what topics were brought up as long as they could be tied to modern (contemporary) music. To that end I have tried to get everyone to give me specifics. I have not seen very many. 

Bob, 'soup' is a generalized word. Contemporary music is a soup. The application of music, in modern times, has changed relative to it's social function and thus it's form has adapted and modified to enhance present purposes. What more needs to be said? Are we looking for aspects of contemporary music so that we can more efficiently 'copy' them or are we trying to plot the course of the music of the future? You tell me. Then, above and beyond all this , we have the 'inspired' innovators. This is yet another aspect of contemporary art and music, and IMO the true purpose of Art.    RS
 
Bob Porter said:

We can certainly talk about film music. There is plenty of it to classify it as its own genre. It's easy to discount it because, after all, it's just in the background. But is it?

On hearing a certain repeated two note theme, who of us doesn't think of Jaws? I think a wide range of folks recognize the opening strains of the Imperial March, to name two of many. There are several cases where the music is another character, rather than just background. Some would say that most film music is too traditional. It doesn't do anything new. It doesn't push any boundaries. Yet it i accessible, and, for many, entertaining. Isn't that the point of music?

Roger, I'm not after generalities. What aspects of form do you see in contemporary music?

In other words Bob, you are asking for the ingredients for soup.
 
Bob Porter said:

Roger,

This is the first line of the OP:

"The question is: What are quantifiable bullet points that define contemporary music?"

The title of the thread might be misleading, and not very good English. It doesn't make any difference because it is superseded by the actual question.

You brought up form and function. Then named some musical forms and some uses for them, and that throughout history these were at one time contemporary. Have I got it?

Perhaps you missed where I said I didn't mind what topics were brought up as long as they could be tied to modern (contemporary) music. To that end I have tried to get everyone to give me specifics. I have not seen very many. 

Roger,

"Quantifiable bullet points", which I thought was a more interesting way to put it, sounds like ingredients to me. Nuts and bolts. Integral parts. Not sure how I can simplify it any more. 

Bob. so now I am trying to fathom, what are the nuts and bolts of a contemporary musical soup. The ingredients would be those that nourish the taste buds of the day. I have yet to walk into a restaurant and see that the 'soup of the day' was listed as squid chowder. That might appeal to the avant garde crowd, but not the general public. Seeing as commercialism is the prime driving force of pretty much everything these days, and profit is the major incentive, contemporary music has been influenced and 'pulled' in that direction. Maybe it has always been this way... I don't know. Still, I think you are asking us to define the ingredients of soup... yet, each type of soup may have some common elements, each soup is distinctive due to it's individual ingredients. Are you asking, 'is there a specific ingredient that qualifies contemporary music from classical music'? I would say no to that ,and refer back to form and function.
 
Bob Porter said:

Roger,

"Quantifiable bullet points", which I thought was a more interesting way to put it, sounds like ingredients to me. Nuts and bolts. Integral parts. Not sure how I can simplify it any more. 

Roger,

Pick one and break it down. I don't want to be accused of limiting the conversation. Pick a genre. Why is it different now from the way it was in the past?

BP, if so, then as leader of the focus here, maybe you could reiterate those points that you've seen and highlight them and their potential significance. Please name one that suits you and this ambitious undertaking. Just wondering, is 'modern' music the same as contemporary music ... as far as definitions go in this debate. If the answer is yes, then you are asking, what is modern music style... and that is, a generalization that may be impossible to define or bullet point... much like asking, what are home improvements.   
 
Bob Porter said:

Roger,

This is the first line of the OP:

"The question is: What are quantifiable bullet points that define contemporary music?"

The title of the thread might be misleading, and not very good English. It doesn't make any difference because it is superseded by the actual question.

You brought up form and function. Then named some musical forms and some uses for them, and that throughout history these were at one time contemporary. Have I got it?

Perhaps you missed where I said I didn't mind what topics were brought up as long as they could be tied to modern (contemporary) music. To that end I have tried to get everyone to give me specifics. I have not seen very many. 

Roger,

It seems to me that you give intentionally stupid answers for sport. Go ahead, give one more.

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