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Hi, hope you are all well! I know it's been a while since I've posted anything– just been busy here. Seems there's a lot of fugues going around too :)
Anyway, I'm now finished with this concerto and wanted to post it here. Feel free to let me know your thoughts! Unfortunately, I don't have a recording yet, but will have one in a few months...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxpUMWiNAupORjB1TXVoNlhLV3c This should link to the score. Let me know if you have problems accessing it– shouldn't be an issue, but just in case... :)
Guys, forget listening to a midi file, this music is way beyond that and will only cloud judgement. The playback will hardly relate to the page.
Thanks Mike! And yes, I agree that the midi file won't give a full idea of what's going on in the music. However, it can help people with less score-reading experience get an idea of it, which is why I posted the files. I also had some requests for recordings. Admittedly, I haven't listened to the midi files, and don't really feel inclined to do so.
Of course, when the performance comes around, I will replace the midi files with recordings, which will give a much clearer idea of the music.
Bob, thanks for the input!
Where are the spots in question that you are talking about? I don't recall putting the second violin into alto clef (although I know the violas are in alto clef). As for the low trumpet notes, again, I'd have to see the spot to comment, since there are quite a few factors I'd want to look at as well– for instance, is the trumpet muted at that point? how low are we talking about? I know that there's a couple spots with brass pedal tones, so it might be one of those (and it would probably be muted then).
Never trust notation that's generated from a midi file; midi files contain too little information to reliably reproduce a correct score. It would give you some idea about what's going on, but it's more often than not full of oddities and software mistakes.
I'll check the XML possibility. The reason I posted midi is so that anyone, regardless of notation software or DAW, could open it. There is a pdf that I've cleaned up though, and you can refer to it if there are issues with the midi.
Hi Lara, I don't know your workflow but if you're using Sibelius or Finale you should be able to export an audio file that can be a reasonable facsimile of your work. That's what I should have said when I requested a 'midi mockup' originally, midi files can be useful but they require a lot of work. But thank you for trying to help those of us who are score challenged :)
Hi Ingo, I can export audio files. There are a couple reasons I posted a midi file– one is so people can listen with their own VSTs, another is because the audio files would be massive and I'd have to upload them somewhere separately, as they are too big to be uploaded here.
@Ingo: Lara is getting a live performance of this concerto in the near future, so VSTs are probably not very high up her priority list right now. Personally, I'm waiting for the live recording before I review this piece, because the electronic rendering simply doesn't do it justice.
@ HS. I entirely agree, Lara's piece has subtleties that probably only can be fully appreciated in a live performance.
In general though I think digital reproduction is a good tool for all composers and will only get better in the future.
Of course a Sibelius audio file is pretty easy to render, unlike the VST's I've been learning.
I see that Lara has a soundcloud page with her other works published where we can enjoy them
Hi, Lara, You're midi clips opened right up in my Logic Pro. It sounded interesting and promising, but for some reason, your ESX24 solo violin voice was missing (although I do have that solo violin audio unit). Since you have Logic, I would like it if you were to bounce an audio file for posting on a music site. Soundcloud seems to be most popular (I also have a violin concerto posted there)!
Hi Art, I will be posting the piece to Soundcloud once I have a proper recording! For now, I have put audio files up on google drive, as people seemed to be having issues with midi. Again, note that the quarter tones (which are a big part of the piece) are unfortunately missing in this audio. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/0ByZcL80uybV1RS1zaFVVSFR...
I was pleased to see you had put this piece up, and I am examining the sound of it carefully and slowly. I have a few questions, not about the tonality, but about timbre, dynamics and tempo.
First let me explain how I listened to this. I opened the file, and my default chose Garageband at first. I kept that file, but then opened it again using Logic X. That sounded much better. It does open in both applications, with a "string section" instead of a solo violin. I changed the track to the Logic solo "Violin (Arco)" to better gauge your intention. I noticed in the score you had the dynamics marked as "pp," when the solo violin first comes in. At this level, the violin seems to be drowned out by the other instruments, though this could just be a peculiarity of the software.
But I wondered what you wanted the timbre to be like, when the violin first entered, and how the dynamics would sound, in contrast with the other instruments. I played with the file a bit. It sounded better to me, when I raised the volume of the violin up, during the initial entry point, and then back down to its original "pp" when it plays totally alone. Perhaps that's a very small thing, and the violin should not be heard too distinctly at first, until it does play completely solo. I wondered what you wanted to convey at that point.
On the issue of tempo, I have the sense that some additional tempo variation might be appropriate during the first portion of the work, up to measure 52. I assume that you want there to be a strong contrast between the 60 and the 120 bps sections, but even so, I think some variation in tempo during that initial section might be beneficial, without destroying the sort of floating or timeless feeling you want to impart there. I admit I am not sure what kind of tempo variations, or how many would be useful, simply to give it a more organic gestalt. Certainly not large ones, or dramatic swings.
These are just some initial reflections, which might be totally off base. Whatever the case, I find the work intriguing, and I will listen to it all the way through, to get the whole sense of it, over time. I want to mull over the idea of using of quarter tones here, before I say anything about that. Is there anyway you can adjust your sound files so they include the quarter tones, or would that be too time consuming? I know it's not easy, though there are ways.
Thanks for posting this.