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I very much avoid eating sweets most of the time as Im a dyed in the wool "cookie monster" (cake too :) and only once in a blue moon do I indulge myself. Probably about every month or two.

I have noticed, and just did again that when I do eat sweets I compose up a storm-but Im not sure if my composing abilities are actually stimulated, or Im just able to go longer, and work faster and more efficiently on a "sugar high"..

or maybe BOTH!

Anyone else notice this?

And please note--I am in NO way espousing this as many I know do have diabetes or are pre-diabetic (like myself).

So has anyone else experienced this with sugar?

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

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Most studies seem to show that there is no correlation between sugar intake and hyperactivity. Though I suppose that a pre-diabetic person might have a different reaction. I can't say that sugar effects me in any way. Well, except to make me happy that I ate that piece of cake. Maybe it's the satisfaction, or the guilt. Might be better than drugs or alcohol. 

Most studies seem to show that there is no correlation between sugar intake and hyperactivity

Thanks for your response--as a side note Id really appreciate seeing some actual proof for this statement, thanks-- as personal experience (especially as a parent) and other information throughout the years seem to say and prove otherwise, although as of late there is some question. And this question seems to blame the following for behavior shown when children eat too much sugar and NOT the sugar itself:

For myself I most definitely do compose faster, more efficiently and for longer periods of time when I do eat that delicious cake.:)

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Well, I'm no expert. But everyone knows our Google Overlords know all:)

For the most part, the work I looked at (not definitive to be sure) could not explain chemically what happens. Though they didn't blame some pre-existing condition. They focused on outside influences. A birthday party or some kind of out door activity, or the like where excitement is high already. One study mentioned and slight effect on adrenaline levels. Who knows.

My kids have all been introverts. I don't recall ever seeing any of them have a reaction to sugar. Though I have seen behavior that parents blamed on too much sugar.

Just don't OD on the stuff, Bob

Just don't OD on the stuff, Bob

Thanks Bob..I do watch very carefully ...:)

(No, honestly I was stuffing a cupcake in my face when I said that...hope I didnt get any crumbs on your computer..:)

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

PS only kidding about the cupcake..diabetes and pre diabetes are no laughing matter..

Shortage of glucose can make it very difficult to concentrate, on anything, or resolve/deal with decisions - it's not limited to music. I've noticed a similar correlation between, say, energy drinks and composing stamina. Sugar isn't in itself bad for you and I'm with Bob P on the "sugar doesn't cause hyperactivity" thing.

The number of times I've been struggling to compose, or interpreting simple issues as massive problems, realised I haven't eaten for hours, then eaten and got my mojo back... it's not a secret ingredient to creativity, your brain needs glucose. If you don't often eat sweet foods then possibly you're marginally low on the stuff so notice a difference when you have a treat. Perhaps find some way of ingesting that doesn't require unhealthy food at the same time? Anyway, good blood sugar = more music

"it's not a secret ingredient to creativity,"

No one claimed it was, Dave. I was just relating my experience to see if anyone else had noticed this. As it is I compose  a good 12-15 hours a day, without it, with really good results, and as related went soo much longer on the times I did eat sweets.

"I've noticed a similar correlation between, say, energy drinks and composing stamina."

Sugar +caffeine...this seems to bear out what Ive found with myself, and many others.

"I'm with Bob P on the "sugar doesn't cause hyperactivity" thing."

And thats fine, but in all honesty Bob P was the first parent Ive ever met that hadnt seen the "sugar high" in kids. I was really surprised hearing this.

Thanks for your reply-much appreciated.

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Sure, we've all heard of the "sugar high". But do kids run around like crazy at a birthday party because they've had too much cake, or is it because there are several other kids at the party to run around like crazy with? I never really thought about it. Bob, when you mentioned it, I looked it up. Did I find accurate information? No idea. But what I did find was interesting.

Is the "sugar high" a myth? Is it something parents use as an excuse while watching their kids overact at a party. "Oh well, too much sugar, I guess."  Is it a verifiable chemical reaction. Fred would know. I don't.

Maybe it's another reason I drink coffee black. Nothing like a strong face-slap in a mug. I'm having one now. 

>Is the "sugar high" a myth? Is it something parents use as an excuse while watching their kids overact at a party. "Oh well, too much sugar, I guess."  Is it a verifiable chemical reaction. Fred would know. I don't.

Ive read this and really wondered about it also. And I wasnt referring to that kind of a situation, but more of an ordinary day where a large amount of sugar is then eaten--lets say from a Halloween haul the day before, or a lot of cake with no party involved..and the kids seem to bounce off walls.

At least thats my experience..and enjoy your coffee:)

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

PS I remember in the past hearing how the sugar lobby was paying out money and interfering with research  to clean up sugars' image..I think thats where a lot of taking the blame off sugar might have come from

An example https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-industry-paid...

Bob,

Interesting article. Thanks for posting it.

And fast food and soda are blamed for child obesity. So clean up fast food and ban soda, instead of eating responsibly. What's the old saying? "All things in moderation"? If I eat at MacDonalds  every day, what can I expect. Sure, it's fast and convenient. And I used to eat at those places all the time. But there is no way the food can ever be made healthy. 

A rabbit hole. Sorry.

I had two cups:)

I didn't claim that anyone had claimed it was. It's just the relationship between blood sugar and concentration/focus is essentially not in question. There's no secret ingredient because if you're doing that sort of work, you should be well nourished as a matter of course.

Also:

Whoever cut this from the show and uploaded it titled it rather sensationally, and the show doesn't cite the "medical evidence", but it ties in with Bob P's view (and mine).

Bob Morabito said:

No one claimed it was, Dave.



Bob Porter said:

Bob,

Interesting article. Thanks for posting it.

And fast food and soda are blamed for child obesity. So clean up fast food and ban soda, instead of eating responsibly. What's the old saying? "All things in moderation"? If I eat at MacDonalds  every day, what can I expect. Sure, it's fast and convenient. And I used to eat at those places all the time. But there is no way the food can ever be made healthy. 

A rabbit hole. Sorry.

I had two cups:)

Youre very welcome Bob-I found it interesting also. And again I actually remembered it being in the news about the sugar lobby trying to clean up its image many years ago, with tons of money, and trying--apparently with some success as some people bought it--and it continues to this day.

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

PS @Dave--your example seems to be from a comedy show, and as you said cites no medical evidence..so Im really not sure as to this being a very good example of what your saying? Thanks

A comedy science/knowledge show in which the comedy generally derives from contestants having little knowledge of the questions and acting in a generally unscientific manner in contrast to a formal and knowledgeable host. The fact that the show doesn't cite sources doesn't mean the sources don't exist, though it is an annoying oversight on a science show. Probably felt that it would overshadow the comedy, which is the main focus (but which does not negate the science itself).

I can link to a few studies, most likely the ones mentioned in the show, if you're interested.

Bob Morabito said:

PS @Dave--your example seems to be from a comedy show, and as you said cites no medical evidence..so Im really not sure as to this being a very good example of what your saying? Thanks

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