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You said,

Can you hear the music in this?

http://billionsinchange.com/film

I cannot hear the music in this, unless I actually click on the link, which I haven't done yet.

Why do you ask?  Should I listen to it?  I mean, do you want any of us to listen to it? 

I think you might want to say just a little bit more, and give us an incentive or reason we should listen.

When you entitled this, 

"The Most Beautiful Symphony in Recent History,"

I thought you were going to give us a chance to offer our opinions about what the most beautiful symphony in recent history might be.

Is that the purpose of this thread, ultimately?

I must confess, I will be somewhat disappointed if it is isn't.  But I'll live.

Caffeine is one of the most useful drugs in the world.

Ondib- I am truly shocked at your inane response. I thought that you

of all people here, with all your berating rhetoric about the present ills

foisted on humanity by the 'petro-dollar' regime, would see the potential

and the huge door this is opening up for a world of people who will be

aided and lifted up by this one simple endeavor.

The theme is magnificent, the harmomies are sublime and the developement

is subtly magical.

If you truly understood the roots of our present day 'situation' , you would hear

the counterpoints woven into the fabric of this matrix and start to dance and sing along.

This is not about 'energy drinks'. That is only the vehicle that allowed this revised

'New World Symphony' to begin.  Many have died attempting to write this music

in the past. This IS what genius is all about. Heart and Soul and Simple, in action.       RS
 ps- ya wanta make a bet?
Olmn said:

You said,

Can you hear the music in this?

http://billionsinchange.com/film

I cannot hear the music in this, unless I actually click on the link, which I haven't done yet.

Why do you ask?  Should I listen to it?  I mean, do you want any of us to listen to it? 

I think you might want to say just a little bit more, and give us an incentive or reason we should listen.

When you entitled this, 

"The Most Beautiful Symphony in Recent History,"

I thought you were going to give us a chance to offer our opinions about what the most beautiful symphony in recent history might be.

Is that the purpose of this thread, ultimately?

I must confess, I will be somewhat disappointed if it is isn't.  But I'll live.

To be honest, Roger, I got pretty excited about this video as well. I watched it before your other one, so I was still looking favorably upon your discernment.  I plan to show this video to my son in the near future.

Comments for Roger, Fredrick and Mariza, who appear to be the only other contributors on this thread so far.  Fredrick, I wrote a detailed reply to some of your remarks on the "Experiment" thread, in case you haven't looked at it yet.

 

Roger, you said, "Ondib- I am truly shocked at your inane response."

 

Oh, no need at all to be shocked.   I am as capable of making inane responses as anyone else.  Still, I am not even sure why you think my response was inane.  Perhaps it wasn't at all.  That may be in the eye of the beholder.  But it's all right.  

 

"I thought that you of all people here, with all your berating rhetoric about the present ills foisted on humanity by the 'petro-dollar' regime ..."

 

I take it from your use of the phrase "berating rhetoric,"  you are not entirely enthusiastic about my objections to the current geo-political set up. I don't think I ever actually used the phrase 'petro-dollar' regime, or any phrase quite like that.   Whatever the case, I think that we may actually agree on a number of points having to do with our "present ills," as you call them.

 

"[I thought that you] ...  would see the potential and the huge door this is opening up for a world of people who will be aided and lifted up by this one simple endeavor."

 

What do you mean by "this?"  Oh, you mean the music. Or the link.   I haven't heard it yet. How could I see its potential if I haven't heard it yet.  That's why I asked you if you could tell me more about it, before I heard it.  I thought I would like to know what you had to say, before I took the trouble of listening.  I assumed that what you wrote would be designed to convince me that the link is worth listening to. 

 

"The theme is magnificent, the harmomies are sublime and the developement is subtly magical."

 

Well, in that case, I think I will take a listen.  That's all you had to say, really.  I was just curious about why you thought it would be good for us to hear this.

 

If you truly understood the roots of our present day 'situation' , you would hear the counterpoints woven into the fabric of this matrix and start to dance and sing along.

 

I am not sure if any human being really and truly understands all the "roots" of our present-day situation.  I am operating under the assumption that some of the problems involve:  1) the nature of current socio-economic system; 2) a political order which is largely non-responsive to the will of the people; 3) certain deficits in general education; 4) a lack of advanced psychological, aesthetic and philosophical culture, and a few other serious problems. 

 

The roots may be: 1) biological (humans are still largely animalistic, and behave accordingly), 2) emotional (humans have not yet fully trained themselves to tame their baser inclinations), 3) mental (the powers of the mind have not been fully cultivated, to the point where many of the problems we are discussing can be rectified, even in theory), 4) intellectual (actual systems of thought still need to be developed, political systems, social systems, economic systems, and so on, and those which we already have, need to be understood more broadly, and by larger numbers of people), 5) moral (humans do not yet embrace, as a species, a comprehensive system of ethics which all might agree upon, NOR CAN WE SAY, most humans are willing to take the trouble to put more effort into determining the nature of the essential moral imperatives), and 6) spiritual (humans have not yet decided to devote themselves sufficiently to determining the nature of their relationship to the Deity, the Divine Infinite, or the Supreme Being, in such a way as to have beneficial results for humanity as whole).

 

Might the piece of music you are talking about, inspire us to move towards finding a way of addressing the "roots" of the problem?  I suppose I will have to listen, in order to find out.

 

"This is not about 'energy drinks'."

 

This is not about 'energy drinks'?  Who brought up energy drinks?  How are energy drinks relevant here?  Did I miss a previous reference to that topic on another thread?  Fredrick said something about caffeine, a while back, but I was not sure why he was discussing that either. 

 

I have never consumed an "energy drink" before, though I am led to believe such a beverage is just like tea or coffee, or a little stronger.  I often do drink tea, but I ran out of my usual varieties of black tea, and have relied mostly upon a kind of Earl Grey (Decaffeinated) that I had in the pantry.  It has a nice flavor, but I might need to get some more ordinary black tea.  Why?  Perhaps just for the sake of getting a little bit of the kick of the standard mild stimulant in my liquid diet.   It probably doesn't matter that much, either way in the long run.   

 

 

That is only the vehicle that allowed this revised 'New World Symphony' to begin. 

 

This revised one?  The only one I know is by Antonín Dvořák.  Is there another New World Symphony?  You are making me curious now.  I suppose I will have to listen to the link you have provided.

 

Many have died attempting to write this music

in the past.

 

I didn't know that.  I mean, I've never heard about that before.  How did they die, and why?  I assume that's an interesting story.  I definitely didn't know that.

 

 

This IS what genius is all about.

 

Well, you can hardly say anything more likely to convince me than that.  I am sure I will listen to your link right after I post this message.  Immediately afterwards, in fact. 

 

"Heart and Soul and Simple, in action."

 

Well, that could be very good, and it could be a very good recommendation.  I don't want it to be too simple though.   For instance, I am not sure I want it be too much like the last section of Aaron Copland's Appalachian Spring, necessarily.  You know, the Shaker theme:  'Tis the Gift to be Simple, 'tis the Gift to be Free.  It was good the first time, but it gets a bit boring on the second and third hearing.

 

Well, I will just have to click on the link and take my chances.       

 

You asked, in your conclusion

 

ps- ya wanta make a bet?

 

No.  Not really. I am not very much prone to betting, or enthusiastic about gambling in general.  I like the use of "gambling motifs," in fiction, novels, short stories, and operas.  I like Tchaikovsky's Queen of Spades, and Dostoevsky's The Gambler (and both Shostakovich's and Prokofiev's operatic versions of the latter).  I have only been to casinos three times in my life:  once in Varna, Bulgaria, once in New Orleans, and once in Atlantic City.  I didn't gamble myself on any of those occasions, however.  I was just interested in looking around.  I did play roulette, poker and other card games, as an adolescent and sometimes petty change was involved.  But I do not gamble at all now.  My wife is much more averse to it than I am, for personal reasons of her own which I won't go into at this time.

 

But no, I don't want to make a bet.  Thanks for offering.

 

Why, do you want to make a bet?

 

I'll just note in conclusion, the fact that Mariza seems to have listened to the link, and that she speaks positively about, is good.  This offers me an added incentive to click on the link, and see what it's all about.  I still don't have a clear idea about what it is at all. That makes me still feel a little bit reluctant. I wish you had given me a bit more specific information.  But I'll give it a try, and get back to you after I listen, and I will let you know what I think.

 

Okay.  So this is a promotional film.

Partial Summary:

The first innovation in a series of several, the Free Electric hybrid bike is expected to have an immense impact on people who live their lives off the grid or with barely any access to electricity.

“Everything requires energy. Energy is the great equaliser,” says Bhargava, adding that over half of the world’s population have no access to electricity or access to electricity for two or three hours per day.

Bhargava’s team developed a hybrid bicycle to take advantage of mechanical energy created by humans to solve one of the world’s most pervasive problems.

The Free Electric hybrid bike can supply a rural household with energy for 24 hours after one hour of pedalling. The pedalling drives a flywheel, which turns a generator and charges a battery.

One bicycle could potentially provide a small village with electricity if each household spends one hour per day pedalling.

The bicycle is also a clean way to generate power. If half of the world is hooked-up to a Free Electric it means half the world is using eco-friendly energy.

Excellent Mariza    this has a future potential we can all benefit from.

Regarding discernment; yes, there is a lot of rubbish and dis-information

offered in videoland. I hope you don't think that I am anti-semitic. That is not the case.

What I am is anti-evil. The term 'Jew' is one of the most misused and abused words

referring to a group of people in history. Can you truly define who is a Jew?

Are they the Israelites, the Judaens, the Hebrews, the Zionists? Where did the term

originate and was it even correctly interpreted into  modern bibles?

There is one key underlying factor in understanding and discerning the real history of this planet,

at least for the last 3000 years. As cliche as it may sound, Follow the Money.      RS   (rabbithole spelunker)
 
Mariza Costa-Cabral said:

To be honest, Roger, I got pretty excited about this video as well. I watched it before your other one, so I was still looking favorably upon your discernment.  I plan to show this video to my son in the near future.

I think the appealing message of this video is the "can do" attitude, the personal goal of working for the benefit of the poor to eliminate the roots of poverty, the belief that it is more important to roll up your sleeves than to wait for the "experts" to announce it can be done, and the resourcefulness in eschewing barriers (such as the huge barriers mounted by the interests of oil-producing countries/corporations) by reaching out to Singapore (though I didn't get it what special loopholes are available to the Singapore government). These messages were upbeat and productive, in my opinion, even though I doubt the video portrayed this company with any degree of realism.

I did recall, however, that graphene, a carbon material with exceptional physical properties, which these guys are suggesting is appropriate to harness geothermal energy at large scale, was invented by two scientists who took time off every Friday to have fun with unofficial scientific experimentation for which they received no funding. I think we all need to have more productive fun, and I think that all healthy fun is productive.

Mariza, I understand what you said and delightedly agree but don't understand the last line.(1st paragraph)

I see and hear a great potential for improvement in this effort. The idea of open source cooperation and

fertile minds working to improve and benefit humanity is the necessary paradigm of the future. And, this is not

throwing money at a problem as many philanthropists do- this is common sense basic ABC's with a rational

'can do' attitude. And funding to boot ... no political strings attached- as best as I can tell. I sense a strong 'vibe'

of genuine heart and soul with this and I know that these things can be accomplished. Many others are working on similar

projects. I believe that we all will soon see some of the benefits that should have happened years ago.   RS

Roger,

Thank you for posting the video..  I found it very inspiring and hopeful! I know that i will be sharing this link with others.

It is so innovative, gutsy, and courageously optimistic,

Just great!

.... and it is happening        very cool !
 
gregorio X said:

Roger,

Thank you for posting the video..  I found it very inspiring and hopeful! I know that i will be sharing this link with others.

It is so innovative, gutsy, and courageously optimistic,

Just great!

As an aside, Roger.

Do you have an opinion about over-unity, or zero point energy?

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