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"I just wanted to let everyone know about a great place to find and work on film scoring jobs, The Composer Collective (I am a TeamScore member myself):
http://www.thecomposercollective.com/tcc/composersignup.asp

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Yes. A tiny share of something is of course worth more than 100% of nothing. That's a good point to bring up. It's important for everyone to realize the significance of sharing we are doing here. These gigs could have gone to one composer each. Instead, for instance, on Chamaco, a film starring Martin Sheen and Michael Madsen, 25 composers get to put that down on their resume. And the resultant score is phenomenal and almost too consistent.

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Hi Evan,

Can you please tell me, does this

form submitter hereby agrees to give full rights to license and derive material for the purposes of fulfilling our oblligations to our Clients

allow TCC to use any music submitted without paying or crediting the submitter?

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If we didn't enforce this a composer could leave us high and dry in the middle of a project. The verbage is PER project. TCC is run by composers who know what's fair for composers. All rules favor the composer.

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Fair enough, I see your point and I appreciate the clarification.

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You are talking from complete conjecture "Switch Theory", about me taking credit for projects and that we are a scam. The points cannot be argued, you are completely mistaken. IMDB means nothing. Most of what you find on IMDB is out of date, or not yet correctly updated. We put myself or Matt or the chosen party as Composer right away when we sign a contract with a Client, as a stopgap measure against composers soliciting to the Client further. Standard procedure.

In regards to your other issues, you probably just got caught in between the transition from our old website, to our new one. We clearly labeled the new site, in "beta". And we're very open to feedback.

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How our we a "major scam!"? I'd like to hear this. And what in your mind makes something not just a scam, but a major scam?

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Robert, I replied to you personally. The reply was not meant to be cold. Should we post the exchange here? I can paste it.

I made every effort to be helpful. In the future, I would love to hear your comments so we can improve.

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I intended staying away from this discussion but I must reply to the above.
You commented here on my "tongue in cheek" reference to the word "tiny".
I do not know enough about who you are or what you do to judge whether I think this collective thing is a scam but I am sure of one thing. If there is money to be made through it then the lion's share goes to Evan Evans. The majority of collective members will earn very little. That's business! whether in music or any other industry. I'm not making a moral judgement, I'm just stating a fact.

For others reading this........
The music industry is the same as all other industries in the world..... who you know is as important if not more so than what you know.
That is.... "who YOU know" not "who someone else knows on your behalf".

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No hard feelings. The fact that no one made any comments about my music is not any of my concern. I know that with any business, not just music, you have to earn the respect of the group to be treated equally. My partner and I were concerned because we paid to be a member and weeks later we are still waiting for a password to even get started. I can understand backed up work, but when you see administrators all over the site making new comments all day every day, on the same posts that you are asking questions, it is extremely frustrating. I sincerely apologize for blowing up like that. And wish you all the best, Jim

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Thanks Ray. And I might add that I really don't care to take much at all. I'm not a megalomaniac looking to dominate the world. I want that for my company, but the benefits I need are NOTHING. I am a master of my craft, and I just want to share that, and I want to solve the problem of dwindling music budgets and give more composers more work. Around the office, we think of TCC as a kind of Robin Hood for film composers. We go out and get gigs, and we spread them around to everyone. TCC keeps publishing royalties wherever it can. Whenever it cant's .. guess what? ... we take NOTHING.

I'm not going to say which jobs, but there have been at least 5 jobs in the last 12 months, where we actually put the money in to pay the composers when the Client either backed out or had not enough to speak of.

Evan

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Robert,
By the way, the "precocial" thing, is not a measure of your talents. It's meant to be how new you are to The Studio. It upgrades as you make more posts. I think it's set to upgrade after as little as 5 posts. Sorry, but we totally didn't mean to offend with that. Do you have an idea of what we could call newbies instead of "precocial" that's maybe creative, has team spirit, maybe is a pun on film scoring? Let us know!
Thanks,
Evan

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Jim, that's really nice man. Thanks. You made my day. And Clinton LeFort, who sent a very nice email a few minutes ago, saying how much he admires what we are doing for "upcoming" composers. That's probably our target audience, the "upcoming" film composer. But we certainly have a few veterans who get placed in every project.

Hey Jim, you have a nice Sunday.

best,
Evan

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