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this tune I characterize as a symphonic poem. It is inspired by the scientific story of the creation and the evolution of Earth. There is a youtube video associated with the music clarifying the ideas.

The tune is rather long, about 15 minutes, but the second half is a developed repetition of the themes so if you are short of time, it could help me to give feedback on the first part only. The last minute is sort of a climax though, at least with the video.

 https://soundcloud.com/user-892939153/mother-earth-a-true-story-orc...

Video: https://youtu.be/BJuaeLiHnKU

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Hi Kjell, I have listened to your work and I found it to be quite enjoyable. The sound is good and you have made good use of dynamics.  I liked the orchestration and you have some variation in the instrumentation which is appealing.

You have linked the work to the natural history of our planet but the music is not programmatic as far as I can tell, although in your video description you listed the time codes of important events which are depicted. This doesn't bother me really but you might consider an alternative approach of letting the music be more directly connected to the scenes that are depicted.

Since this is a longer work you are faced with the issues of helping your listeners stay involved and enjoy what you have done. Without a score I can't be too specific but I'm not hearing any tempo changes and the harmonic content seems somewhat limited for a work of this length. There is thematic material which recurs and helps to unify this music but I'm wondering if you might do more to let this piece tell its story. 

You could break this up into sections without actually making it into a collection of shorter pieces. The sections could correspond to the time divisions that you list on the YT page. You could then employ some of the traditional compositional techniques to your thematic material which would give more of an overall structure and also more variety to this piece. Just a thought!

Good work, thanks for posting!

Thank you Ingo for listening and the constructive critisism. Yes, it is probably a too long piece. As I state it might be enough to listen to half of it. However, I couldn't fit the evolution into that short time lapse.

The video is truly amateurish, using freeware and Window Movie Maker. The intention is to illustrate my main ideas, maybe attracting some professional creator.

Ingo Lee said:

Hi Kjell, I have listened to your work and I found it to be quite enjoyable. The sound is good and you have made good use of dynamics.  I liked the orchestration and you have some variation in the instrumentation which is appealing.

You have linked the work to the natural history of our planet but the music is not programmatic as far as I can tell, although in your video description you listed the time codes of important events which are depicted. This doesn't bother me really but you might consider an alternative approach of letting the music be more directly connected to the scenes that are depicted.

Since this is a longer work you are faced with the issues of helping your listeners stay involved and enjoy what you have done. Without a score I can't be too specific but I'm not hearing any tempo changes and the harmonic content seems somewhat limited for a work of this length. There is thematic material which recurs and helps to unify this music but I'm wondering if you might do more to let this piece tell its story. 

You could break this up into sections without actually making it into a collection of shorter pieces. The sections could correspond to the time divisions that you list on the YT page. You could then employ some of the traditional compositional techniques to your thematic material which would give more of an overall structure and also more variety to this piece. Just a thought!

Good work, thanks for posting!

I'm not sure 15 minutes is too long to deal with the evolution of earth. I get your hit points. And I like the project Just like it is.

But let's think about the project for a minute. As I understand it, you wrote the music first, and then created the video to "illustrate" it? This is not unusual. Disney did it with "Rite of Spring". But you wrote a very pastoral piece, and as a result you have a very pastoral video. That's fine, but it leaves out some very violent parts of evolution. We didn't just kind of flow into existence. There were explosions and earthquakes and the like.

If you're going to have a visual aspect, consider a project where you make the video first. Make it say just what you want. Make it interesting and powerful. Then write the music for it. Make it interesting and powerful. That way both parts share equally in telling the story.

Is this MuseScore?

I know your first reaction will be that you don't think you are any good at making videos. Movie Maker has everything you need. It's what you have inside, not how much you spent on software, that counts. 

Thanks for posting this.

Thank you Bob for a nice comment giving me many things to think about. I believe though that if you make movie first then you are in a different genre of art than where I want to be. I just develop my themes mainly on piano and then orchestrate in Finale.

By the way, talking about "Movie Maker". It is a bit hard to work with this software when it comes to synchronization between music and movie. There must be a bug since the result gives a slightly different relative position than what was demanded during editing.

MuseScore? No thanks. Although I have some of my pieces there I will soon remove them, the reason is that Musescore is unable to play the tune with the library that was intended. This is a disaster for Musescore (and for me) but they don't seem to care much.

Good to hear from you Bob

Kjell

Bob Porter said:

I'm not sure 15 minutes is too long to deal with the evolution of earth. I get your hit points. And I like the project Just like it is.

But let's think about the project for a minute. As I understand it, you wrote the music first, and then created the video to "illustrate" it? This is not unusual. Disney did it with "Rite of Spring". But you wrote a very pastoral piece, and as a result you have a very pastoral video. That's fine, but it leaves out some very violent parts of evolution. We didn't just kind of flow into existence. There were explosions and earthquakes and the like.

If you're going to have a visual aspect, consider a project where you make the video first. Make it say just what you want. Make it interesting and powerful. Then write the music for it. Make it interesting and powerful. That way both parts share equally in telling the story.

Is this MuseScore?

I know your first reaction will be that you don't think you are any good at making videos. Movie Maker has everything you need. It's what you have inside, not how much you spent on software, that counts. 

Thanks for posting this.

Kjell'

Yes, Finale. Sorry about that. 

I only mention video first because then both the video and the music are important. it sure is a different art form. 

It can be tricky, but I've gotten MuseScore to use different sound fonts. They're not too bad. 

Bob, be careful with Musescore. I have had a long discussion with them about the issue. When your music is played from Iphone, Musescore will automatically choose there own soundfont and interpretation of the score with of course a very different result. Since most people play from Iphone, Musescore has real trouble.

Bob Porter said:

Kjell'

Yes, Finale. Sorry about that. 

I only mention video first because then both the video and the music are important. it sure is a different art form. 

It can be tricky, but I've gotten MuseScore to use different sound fonts. They're not too bad. 

Interesting.

I only use MS on my computer. I looked at the MS app for my tablet, but it is not really very useful. Think about it: A mobile app is very limited. I'm not surprised playback is a problem.

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