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Hey there, so I'm kind of new here, and this Kings and Kingdoms, my first piece for a large ensemble. I kind of am not certain about the name (my sister came up with it), so if any of you have any suggestions for better names, please do. This is a live recording of my high school wind ensemble performing it at our spring 2011 concert for the end of my senior year in high school. Specific things I want critiqued are instrumentation, progression, the overall feel of the piece. Please note that this is a high school ensemble, and that there are mistakes (ie: the cymbal player gets a little lost about halfway through but catches up), so please ignore those. Otherwise, enjoy!

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up to 0:25 I Am troubled about the texture. Gets better after that.I know it is not because of the players, because later on, the same instruments sound nice and clear-at first it was all muddy. Unless that was your intention of cource. 

To me this is not really kings and kingdoms. It reminds me of a fantasy story, you know, hero, monster, adventure, near death situations, action, despair, or better the feeling of everything being almost lost, with hope on the other side of the tunnel...triumph is the final feeling that is left to me. 

I liked it. It was like film music, but had images of its own- it was almost like a "musical story" of some short- I'd call it symphonic poem, but Im not sure the term is fitting. 

I'd like more clear instrumentation, a bit richer texture, I don't know, maybe I'll come back to it later. 

I have to listen it again more carefully to comment on progression, I'll get down to it tomorrow.

Keep it up, you're doing good.

so im going through it a second time, more carefully. Like I said before, this piece brings pictures to me, so I will treat parts as "scenes"...

The music flows nicely, it starts dark, with a feeling of sorrow, it's like a dark age or something bad has happened. I'd like to hear those bells louder, just a as a suggestion, you could play a bit with them, let them express the sadness. 

Then I get that feeling like watching darth vader and listening to the imperial march- Its that darkness' face, all with some action and suspence. It peaks and then-

sudden hope, sweet emotions, you know it kinda brings the creation of the world according to Tolkin. it seems to me you took that dark, "evil lord" like theme and transformed it to hope. I liked it.Some phrases start dark and then resolve to light, it fits the general cource of the piece. Peak and then-

Something that reminds me of victory. Not that absolute victory though, but victory nonetheless.

 

There are some parts where an instruments plays a line, like trying to solo, but the texture doesnt let it shine. Maybe you could bring those bits more to the front. And once again, you could use those bells more, in the "victory" scene, which could be developed more, let it play its role as an extended coda and a final resolution. I liked your "dark lord" theme the most, it was quite powerful if you ask me.

 

Im nowhere near expert or good, all these are from the simple, plain listener hiding in me. I named those parts according to what they brought out to me, and uysed them to refer to specific sections of the piece. 

 

So, what is it expressing, according to you? That way you might get a more fitting title...

 

 


For me, it fit the progression of a battle, where it starts out as a foggy morning, where our "protagonists" are first feeling hopeless, where a trumpet solo initiates a sort of "inspirational speech" to the troops, and then issues the powerful "dark lord" theme as you put it, where the enormous opposing army attacks. There's action music as the fighting ensues, and then a glimmer of hope as the the protagonists emerge victorious and finish the battle to their own ends. That's pretty much how I saw it...
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so im going through it a second time, more carefully. Like I said before, this piece brings pictures to me, so I will treat parts as "scenes"...

The music flows nicely, it starts dark, with a feeling of sorrow, it's like a dark age or something bad has happened. I'd like to hear those bells louder, just a as a suggestion, you could play a bit with them, let them express the sadness. 

Then I get that feeling like watching darth vader and listening to the imperial march- Its that darkness' face, all with some action and suspence. It peaks and then-

sudden hope, sweet emotions, you know it kinda brings the creation of the world according to Tolkin. it seems to me you took that dark, "evil lord" like theme and transformed it to hope. I liked it.Some phrases start dark and then resolve to light, it fits the general cource of the piece. Peak and then-

Something that reminds me of victory. Not that absolute victory though, but victory nonetheless.

 

There are some parts where an instruments plays a line, like trying to solo, but the texture doesnt let it shine. Maybe you could bring those bits more to the front. And once again, you could use those bells more, in the "victory" scene, which could be developed more, let it play its role as an extended coda and a final resolution. I liked your "dark lord" theme the most, it was quite powerful if you ask me.

 

Im nowhere near expert or good, all these are from the simple, plain listener hiding in me. I named those parts according to what they brought out to me, and uysed them to refer to specific sections of the piece. 

 

So, what is it expressing, according to you? That way you might get a more fitting title...

 

 

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