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Hi colleagues,
I notice a lot of conversation on this board lately about atonal music and I thought I would share with you something I have found interesting on the subject. There's this Canadian composer named Samuel Andreyev on YouTube who is doing in depth analysis of notable composers from a variety of nontonal approaches. He must be some kind of teacher, so in depth and in detail that I think these must be recorded lectures for a class. Now, I don't give a fig for any atonal music whatsoever, but I have been fascinated by these videos, because what I have come to appreciate about these composers through watching Sam's videos is what an immense amount of thought went into these compositions. It's really quite interesting to hear him dissect them. I still don't like atonal music, but I feel a much deeper understanding of it than I had before. Here's a link to his videos page, plus a list in no order of some of the composers he has analyzed.

http://www.youtube.com/user/temporalfissure/videos

Schoenberg
Ruth Crawford Seeger
Hindemith
Heinz Holliger
Ligetti
Ferneyhough
Webern
Bartok
Jandek
Stockhausen
Ives
Earle Brown
Stravinsky
Varese
Morton Friedman
Boulez
Carl Ruggles
Gyorgy Kurtag
Lili Boulanger

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Hi Gav,

I appreciate your mentioning ANDREYEV.  I listened 'Scoenberg in 10 minutes'.

He is really good but of course time consuming and difficult to listen.

I enjoyed it a lot and I will certainly listen the rest.

Cheers.

Ali

Note: By the way have you listened all of them? Incredible...

Hi Ali, I have listened to most of them, and intend to get through them all eventually

Unbelievable, you are a hardcore musician.

Gav Brown said:

Hi Ali, I have listened to most of them, and intend to get through them all eventually

I'm no great analyst (of music) but there are always things to learn. One statement that struck me from one of Mr Andreyev's videos: for theory to exist the composer has already done their work. 

Thank you, Gav. Things to look at as time permits and time is likely to get permitted with us incarcerated at home!

Ehm, that's like nearly 40 hours worth, in total...?!



Gav Brown said:

Hi Ali, I have listened to most of them, and intend to get through them all eventually

Yes, I have been listening to them for a long time! 

Tillerich said:

Ehm, that's like nearly 40 hours worth, in total...?!



Gav Brown said:

Hi Ali, I have listened to most of them, and intend to get through them all eventually

Hi,

I just listened Andreyev's Anton Webern in 10 minutes

Very enticing.  A few words that pass by may switch

some new ideas...  

Thank you again, Gav. 

I found the excuses he made for later Stravinsky interesting. I'll listen to a few more as time permits.

Dane, yes, I found that one interesting too. It shows the impact of criticism on even the greats.

He's a very articulate dude. I've watched a couple of general topics, will now go into his analysis videos. Thanks.

He puts up new ones every 2-6 weeks. Just put up a new one, on Penderecki

I listened to his "analysis", rather "explanation" maybe of Stockhausen's Gesang der Junglinge last night, a work that has always interested me for two reasons - i) it was one of the first complete works on multi-track tape; ii) able to take advantage of "total serialism" because it wasn't tied to human vagaries. And it had the human link to serialism through the use of a voice and text. It was most interesting. I never realised quite so much work had gone into its planning and execution. I played it through 'phones while at another task but it fairly quickly caught my attention.

I'd long preferred the composer's Telemusik but with Andreyev's explanation I may well give it another spin if spare moments crop up. 

Now, if only Andreyev would do similar with Berio's Omaggio a Joyce...! A work I listen to as less contrived (so it seems in the absence of detail) and electronically more romantic, if there is such a thing. 

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