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Hi All,

It took the full month of March to compose and produce this composition.

It means quite a lot to me, since the first 5 notes of the melody have been "composed" by my wife who asked me to write something beautiful with them. :)

Up to you if you think I made a good job or not!

Would love to hear some feedback on the mastering, I spent lot of time on this. thanks for listening.

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Hi Marco,

I believe that you certainly made something beautiful out of the first 5 notes (as per request :-) ).

I liked very much the developmental line that you followed both in treating the melodic material and in orchestrating it with appropriate colours which I thought were suited quite well to the sound and the accompanying visual.

You seem to have a definite conviction of what you want to do with your material and you do it without destructions or letting the many possibilities present to lead you elsewhere than where you want to arrive.

This in turn provides to the listener a much desired security that this "must be so" if the composer makes it to be so.

Structurally I found it following well-conceived variational techniques with the "theme" re-occurring" at time/place intervals of your choice (to be more precise I would need to look at the score).

Recording-wise I thought that the mix has a few rough edges in various places which could be smoothed out with more work, but here I'm being subjective and I cannot be really helpful as I don’t have enough know how about these things. There are others though in this forum with very big expertise on these matters who I hope will give you better advice/feedback.

Thanks for sharing.

Hi Socrates,

Thanks for the analysis and feedback on the different aspects of the composition.

The whole structure came out in one recording session of 1 hour on my piano, together with the whole armony then it took weeks to finalize the orchestration choosing the right instruments. I knew I wanted to have only strings and piano, percussions came only at the end,mainly to fragment a bit the rythm which was too static.

Each part of the composition carries out a specific emotion, I think I was able to show this with the video. It surely talks about love, distance and passion :)

For the mastering, let me know the minutes where you think some correction must be done, would be great to listen to it more carefully.

Thank you very much :)

Socrates Arvanitakis said:

Hi Marco,

I believe that you certainly made something beautiful out of the first 5 notes (as per request :-) ).

I liked very much the developmental line that you followed both in treating the melodic material and in orchestrating it with appropriate colours which I thought were suited quite well to the sound and the accompanying visual.

You seem to have a definite conviction of what you want to do with your material and you do it without destructions or letting the many possibilities present to lead you elsewhere than where you want to arrive.

This in turn provides to the listener a much desired security that this "must be so" if the composer makes it to be so.

Structurally I found it following well-conceived variational techniques with the "theme" re-occurring" at time/place intervals of your choice (to be more precise I would need to look at the score).

Recording-wise I thought that the mix has a few rough edges in various places which could be smoothed out with more work, but here I'm being subjective and I cannot be really helpful as I don’t have enough know how about these things. There are others though in this forum with very big expertise on these matters who I hope will give you better advice/feedback.

Thanks for sharing.

Marco, I had a quick listen on my iPad and earbuds where I think there are a few things I can say but, after I’ve finished other business today I’ll get a chance to listen in my music room and spend a little time on opinion. Thanks for the ‘expert’ reference but I don’t like the term. There are so many examples in all walks of life, people named as experts who haven’t necessarily shown expertise through experience. I’ve simply been at it a long time.

I'm not quite sure Marco how you view it, I listened more carefully again and when I establish that something is not as it should be (in terms of dynamics for instance) and listen to it again and again it seems audible and ok, but in general here are a few points:

In the opening section the string crescendi seemed a bit overdone to me.
at about 2'40'' when the lower strings come in they sound over pronounced.
- I got a similar feeling with the pizzicati starting at about 3'12'' in combination with other lower strings.
- at 3'25'' you introduce a very nice melodic idea and you carry on going for a big climax starting at about 3'50''.
Here I thought the accompaniment could have been softer (but I suppose it contains secondary melodic fragments that must be pronounced).
Perhaps all these things are the way you want them to be, I'm afraid I'm being subjective again. I don’t really know Marco what a good mix could have been before I have another one for comparison, I am quite inexperienced on all these matters, but since Ray is going to have a go at it, you are in much better hands.
Regards.
Socrates

Thank you again for the time invested in listening and giving your feedback

You are right saying that the more you listen to it the more you get used to this which the first time seemed strange, but you have me great feedback I will probably work on a second mix with some slight changes and will consider to look at what you suggested

Sincerely
Marco

Marco,

I have created a quick master of your mix which I think lessens the hi-mids harshness but it's not what I think that counts it's what you think. 

The virtual mockup started well until realism is shattered by the run 40" in. Perhaps it needs to match the level of the shorts preceding it. Then, the fascination returns until the boxy sounding solo strings.

 At 1':57" a little longer on the first note catching up on the rise. 2':24" maybe more accent on the first note of the triplets?

At 4':38" more accent on the down beats.

All in all minor details, because I have no problem with listening over again.

Ray

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Thank you Ray,
I can hear your points and find them appropriate except maybe the body solo strings, which is the kind of sound I wanted to have, very close and present.

Thank you for your review and next time I might use your professional services for the mastering, do you have a web site?

Marco

Marco, my concern on the solo string part wasn’t distance from the listener but more to do with room size.
As far as mastering audio for profit is concerned, this is not my purpose here on this forum. It is my pleasure to tweak the odd recording shared here for my education, after all, I used your YouTube audio as a starting point so the result was never going to be as good as working from the original full resolution stereo bus mix.
I do have a web site but that isn’t how I do business at the level in which I wish to continue. No deadlines.

Ray

If you are interested I just published a video that shows hot it has been rendered with Cubase, Vienna Ensemble Pro and Spitfire Audio Libraries

Enjoy :)

https://youtu.be/cPftcDd1z7I

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