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Hi to all!

I'd really be glad if you could have a quick listening of this little work for piano and orchestra i recently composed: https://gargoyle.bandcamp.com/track/fantasia-for-piano-and-orchestr...

Let me alert you I'm neither a professional musician nor a professional composer.. so, don't expect too much :)

Thank you for any comment or suggestion and, of course, the time spent listening. It's really an honor.

Gab

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Bravo Gabriele! A truly professional composition by an "amateur following his dream". The piece drew my attention and interest from the start and kept it there all through. Basically an early classical piano concert but the many glissandos of the strings gives it a modern touch. One remark: I wonder why the solo piano parts are so simply arranged without any virtuosity considering the rest of the piece which spoils us with virtuosity and advanced orchestration. I don't mind really, it gives a nice contrast.

I also would like to praise the ending: a true Beethoven-like masterly coda. Reminds me of his 3rd piano concert.

Congrats!

Can't explain my gratefulness for time you spent listening.. really. I'm very unused to receiving comments, since my works usually have no audience :D

You're totally right, the solo piano part is very simple arranged. The reason is a combination of needs and intentions: needs cause I'm not very good ( = I'm not skilled enough ^__^) in writing complex piano parts, intentions cause I was afraid the intimate atmosphere could be a bit ruined by a too complex part.

That said, can't thank you enough for your support and time. I'm so happy to know my work doesn't sound too childish or something like that.



Kjell Prytz said:

Bravo Gabriele! A truly professional composition by an "amateur following his dream". The piece drew my attention and interest from the start and kept it there all through. Basically an early classical piano concert but the many glissandos of the strings gives it a modern touch. One remark: I wonder why the solo piano parts are so simply arranged without any virtuosity considering the rest of the piece which spoils us with virtuosity and advanced orchestration. I don't mind really, it gives a nice contrast.

I also would like to praise the ending: a true Beethoven-like masterly coda. Reminds me of his 3rd piano concert.

Congrats!

EXCELLENT..simply EXCELLENT:)

This piece works in every way possible and is really done extremely well,  with much care and attention to detail.

I very much enjoyed listening to it and thanks so much for sharing:)

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

PS I second that "Bravo Gabriele!"

Thank you so much for listening, your words and support! So much appreciated, believe me.

Very well done Gabriele, well written and very well recorded.  You must be an experienced composer to achieve this I would think.  Can you post a score?  A work like this would be difficult to organize without some type of score it would seem.

Your recording is also very impressive. You have a very realistic sound with dynamics, articulations and tempo changes all very well done. Can you tell us a little about your approach to getting such a good sound?

Great work, thanks for posting!

Experienced under a tech point of view, only. As a nerd, indeed, I have been using sequencers, audio cards and VSTi for years (almost 20 ^___^). Talking about compositions itself, instead, I'm just a self taught, nothing more.

To answer your question, let me clarify, first, the audio quality comes mostly from VSTi themselves, since I just added a small EQ (enhancing low and high frequencies only), a reverb effect to make sound less dry and a maximizer (used with caution, or else I would have lost any dynamic).

What I usually do is setting all the VSTi at their highest volume BEFORE the sound gets into buses: it's the best way to enhance each articulation and not to lose any characteristic of its sound.

That said, it's just a question of time, programming "expression automation" of each track. The result, of course, depends on the features (=quality) VSTi is offering.

Don't know if I fully answered your question. If i forgot mentioning something, please tell me.

Attached, you can find the full score.

Thanks to you, too, for your words and support. I'm really speechless.

Attachments:

By the way, let me say audio quality, in this piece, is just average.

Professional people achieve muuuuuuch higer and stunning results.

I really enjoyed this piece especially the piano parts. I like how this sonds like old classic music, yet has a quite contemporary feel. Keep up the good work.

Thank you soooooooooo much :)

Thanks Gabriele for posting your score, I'll check it out when I have more time. 

Can you tell us what audio libraries you use? I'm particularly interested in what articulations can be automated. I have been learning on East West Composer Cloud but I'm thinking of up grading. Key switching is effective but some of the EW instruments use different samples for different articulations which requires a separate track in the DAW if I understand correctly.

You have done well with your self teaching approach, do you spend a lot of time listening with a score? YouTube is great for that.

Gabriele,

     Nice work. I enjoyed this.  Several corrections to the score.  B. clar. and bassoon go below the clarinets, and piano just above the percussion.  If you use Finale just hit orchestral score order.  The piano pedaling makes no sense and is probably not necessary.  The pianist will add it as necessary.  Unlike other instruments the piano part should display both treble and bass clefs even in the score.  You should add bowings for the strings.  Middle C is a high note for timpani and sounds tinny to my ear.  I would use the octave below.  Chords in string parts should be stated as unison or divided.  You should probably separate the violin parts as first violins would play the upper notes in chords and second violins the lower notes.  Sounds picky, but these are details other composers have corrected in my scores. 

     You have added considerable and nice rubato in the piano solo part.  Keep up the good work.

I iuse Los Angeles Score Strings and Cinematic Orchestra.

Unfortunately, as far as I know, you cant automate articulations. You have to use a separate track for each of them.

Anyway, both approaches have pro and cons. All in all, once you get used with one of them, it's not so hard to quickly achieve very good results.

Regardins listening while reading the score, yes, I have been spending a lot of my free time. As I already told you, I'm not a professional musician, so I can compose and learn only during my free time that basically means during weekends.

Anyway, I mostly use IMSLP and my personal audio library instead of YT cause I like to read a full score instead of a piano reduction :)

Ingo Lee said:

Thanks Gabriele for posting your score, I'll check it out when I have more time. 

Can you tell us what audio libraries you use? I'm particularly interested in what articulations can be automated. I have been learning on East West Composer Cloud but I'm thinking of up grading. Key switching is effective but some of the EW instruments use different samples for different articulations which requires a separate track in the DAW if I understand correctly.

You have done well with your self teaching approach, do you spend a lot of time listening with a score? YouTube is great for that.

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