Cubase drag-and -drop dilemma

[Kristofer Emerig]

This is probably a silly question to most here, but I can't seem to find it in the manual, so here goes:

 

I've put several midi tracks in via keyboard, but now I've decided I want an additional intoductory passage. From what I've heard, Cubase isn't the best choice for editing through a score, but it's all I've got at the moment and I find to look at or edit with the key editor at this point too foreign - it really throws me off. Supposedly, I can select all notes across all tracks and drag and drop them. The problem is that when I select notes beyond what shows on the screen, they are not moved. Only the four or five bars showing on the screen when grabbed are actually moved, although many more bars are selected (in red). Also, when selecting more bars then what show on the screen, I have to scroll over, shift-select, scroll over, shift select, etc. It would seem that as I'm selecting, it should auto scroll until I move the mouse back from the right side of the screen. It seems to me I'm doing something wrong here, or there is a setting or option I'm overlooking.

[Kristofer Emerig]

Sorry, snip, snip. Yes, exactly Jan. The only problem I see is perhaps to define protocols for such a fluid contrapuntal system (curvilinear transitions instead of the discreet steps currently used), composers would probably need advanced degrees in pure math. Unless, of course, you devise a more intuitive system for defining fluid voice movement.

QCMT is about achieving just thirds, but a consequence is that some will be used the "other way" in any but the simplest of tonal compositions. I think it's the alternating contrast of just thirds against sour ones and narrow fifths that appeal though.

[Simon Godden]

No it's not!!

Ray Kemp said:

Cubase is designed around the arrangement and key edit pages. To use it as a score editor is quite frankly "nuts".

[Kristofer Emerig]

I was thinking about a clean reinstall. I'm going to have to do one with Finale anyway, because when I installed it (after Cubase), it didn't take correctly. Finale works fine, but the Aria player and Garritan bundled with it does not function. "Side by side error" - which is usually severe and requires purging the registry and clean install with minimal services running, etc. My gut tells me by the time I get Finale straightened out, Cubase will start glitching, so I've considered clean reinstalling both. I don't really care about what work I have on the system; It's all in manuscript

Jan Civil said:

I totally failed you: I failed to notice 'it should auto-scroll'
YES IT SHOULD!!!!! there is something wrong here. I've never seen that behavior. I think there is something wrong with your computer, OR Cubase has some corruption that has grown onto it...

delete preferences. on a windows computer, I don't even know where they are. it's a home folder by steinberg. the folder you need to throw in the trash it 'Cubase preferences' so cubase can rebuild 'preferences', which are global. definitely do this. I've had cubase do some weird shit in the years I've used it, but not that. if there are key commands or templates you've got, copy those and put them back in. but let cubase rebuild that thing, it may get rid of this behavior.

[Simon Godden]

I never use the Aria player and Garritan in Finale. I just use it for notation. I'm not being snotty or anything. I just can't get it to work properly, and if it's going to drive me mad trying to figure it out, I'd rather throw it over to Notion 3 and listen to on that.

Kristofer Emerig said:

I was thinking about a clean reinstall. I'm going to have to do one with Finale anyway, because when I installed it (after Cubase), it didn't take correctly. Finale works fine, but the Aria player and Garritan bundled with it does not function. "Side by side error" - which is usually severe and requires purging the registry and clean install with minimal services running, etc. My gut tells me by the time I get Finale straightened out, Cubase will start glitching, so I've considered clean reinstalling both. I don't really care about what work I have on the system; It's all in manuscript
Jan Civil said:

I totally failed you: I failed to notice 'it should auto-scroll'
YES IT SHOULD!!!!! there is something wrong here. I've never seen that behavior. I think there is something wrong with your computer, OR Cubase has some corruption that has grown onto it...

delete preferences. on a windows computer, I don't even know where they are. it's a home folder by steinberg. the folder you need to throw in the trash it 'Cubase preferences' so cubase can rebuild 'preferences', which are global. definitely do this. I've had cubase do some weird shit in the years I've used it, but not that. if there are key commands or templates you've got, copy those and put them back in. but let cubase rebuild that thing, it may get rid of this behavior.

[Kristofer Emerig]

That why so far, I just haven't used it. I've just used Kontakt thru Finale, which is probably adequate for the nature of things I'd like to audition right now. I really need to only get an idea of what things sound like as I move them from harpsichord to voice.

Simon Godden said:

I never use the Aria player and Garritan in Finale. I just use it for notation. I'm not being snotty or anything. I just can't get it to work properly, and if it's going to drive me mad trying to figure it out, I'd rather throw it over to Notion 3 and listen to on that.

Kristofer Emerig said:

I was thinking about a clean reinstall. I'm going to have to do one with Finale anyway, because when I installed it (after Cubase), it didn't take correctly. Finale works fine, but the Aria player and Garritan bundled with it does not function. "Side by side error" - which is usually severe and requires purging the registry and clean install with minimal services running, etc. My gut tells me by the time I get Finale straightened out, Cubase will start glitching, so I've considered clean reinstalling both. I don't really care about what work I have on the system; It's all in manuscript
Jan Civil said:

I totally failed you: I failed to notice 'it should auto-scroll'
YES IT SHOULD!!!!! there is something wrong here. I've never seen that behavior. I think there is something wrong with your computer, OR Cubase has some corruption that has grown onto it...

delete preferences. on a windows computer, I don't even know where they are. it's a home folder by steinberg. the folder you need to throw in the trash it 'Cubase preferences' so cubase can rebuild 'preferences', which are global. definitely do this. I've had cubase do some weird shit in the years I've used it, but not that. if there are key commands or templates you've got, copy those and put them back in. but let cubase rebuild that thing, it may get rid of this behavior.

[Kristofer Emerig]

No, its a dedicated system, with only Cubase5, Komplete6, Finale, XP32, and all but minimal services disabled. It's a "Frankenstein" model, made from salvaged and rummaged parts, but I nuked/formatted everything when I assembled it. Most everything appears normal except the side-by-side error with Aria.

Oh - I must add that being yet relatively unfamiliar with the applications, I'm probably not able to declare with certainty that everything is functioning normally.

Jan Civil said:

my next question was, are there other applications which are funky. I'd refresh the system files in your operating system.
Not a clean reinstall, the one that keeps your drivers but refreshes your system files.

Kristofer Emerig said:

I was thinking about a clean reinstall. I'm going to have to do one with Finale anyway, because when I installed it (after Cubase), it didn't take correctly. Finale works fine, but the Aria player and Garritan bundled with it does not function. "Side by side error" - which is usually severe and requires purging the registry and clean install with minimal services running, etc. My gut tells me by the time I get Finale straightened out, Cubase will start glitching, so I've considered clean reinstalling both. I don't really care about what work I have on the system; It's all in manuscript

Jan Civil said:

I totally failed you: I failed to notice 'it should auto-scroll'
YES IT SHOULD!!!!! there is something wrong here. I've never seen that behavior. I think there is something wrong with your computer, OR Cubase has some corruption that has grown onto it...

delete preferences. on a windows computer, I don't even know where they are. it's a home folder by steinberg. the folder you need to throw in the trash it 'Cubase preferences' so cubase can rebuild 'preferences', which are global. definitely do this. I've had cubase do some weird shit in the years I've used it, but not that. if there are key commands or templates you've got, copy those and put them back in. but let cubase rebuild that thing, it may get rid of this behavior.

[Kristofer Emerig]

Thanks Jan, I'll give it a try. Facing a clean install of everything as an alternative, I really have nothing to lose.

Jan Civil said:

You said some plugins weren't working in finale. that isn't normal.

the thing with the no scroll behavior, my first thought is that's systemic. the first thing I would do is trash cubase preferences.
there have been weeks where I worked 12+ hours every day, and the computer gets hot. things go wrong. I was trashing 'em every other day it seems like. when there is a host with plugins, the computer gets *confused*. that's a technical term. I ran windows for a while, and I tweaked it down to nothing which you seem to be doing. windows doesn't like it much. I refreshed those system files every six mos as policy.

cubase isn't communicating with your display right. it may be cubase's fault, and deleting those prefs solve cubase fonkiness.
it may be deeper.

Kristofer Emerig said:

No, its a dedicated system, with only Cubase5, Komplete6, Finale, XP32, and all but minimal services disabled. It's a "Frankenstein" model, made from salvaged and rummaged parts, but I nuked/formatted everything when I assembled it.

Jan Civil said:

my next question was, are there other applications which are funky.