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Dear Forumites

I am writing to see if anybody would be interested in entering a competition to select a piece of concert music written by one of you to be programmed by myself and mastered by Ray. 

I have at my disposal high end orchestral samples that can be used to show the winner how their score would sound in a more realistic way. The samples are not perfect nor a replacement for real players of course, but the difference between what I can offer and whatever notation software is used for rendering is very marked, so much so that when the winning composer hears his/her piece, they may well get a nice shock! The fact that Ray has kindly offered his considerable skills in mastering for whatever comes out of my studio, means that the winner will have a full quality professional recording of their piece. 

I know some here will have the same pro samples as me and I respectfully ask them not to apply as I would like to limit this to those who can only use notation software for playback. 

I was thinking of setting this up pretty much the way Gav has set up competitions in the past
( and I thank Gav for his advice in this matter) with me choosing one out of the best 3 pieces voted for by the forum members to work on.
All this would be anonymous of course, but once the winning piece was announced online, I will have detailed discussions with that composer regarding performance details and interpretation. 

RULES

The music should be a concert work of between 2- 6 minutes for small, up to large orchestra. For clarification, a full orchestra can comprise up to (but not essential!) triple wind (auxiliaries are allowed) full brass up to 6 horns, 3 trumpets, 2 tenor trombones, 1 bass trombone and 1 tuba, percussion a4 if required (all mallets and non pitched perc available) 2 harps and full strings. Chamber orchestra is a paired down orchestra and personnel numbers can be left to the composer but there must be a minimum of around 20 players although if strings are used, then the composer must specify how many in each section. Please note that divisi in strings is also possible, with a limit of a3 for each section. 

No choir or avant-garde techniques should be used because they are not very convincing at present with samples. Any style/period of music is permitted and pieces will NOT be judged on this. The piece can be anything from an overture to a symphonic poem in any mood and on any subject if you need one to write with, but it must be a concert orchestral piece.

What I will be looking for whilst judging, apart from a good piece of music, is clarity of intent in the score because I will have to in effect perform it, this means as detailed a score as possible regarding articulations and dynamics. If I feel there is a problem with the scoring in terms of balance or performance on an instrument, I will gladly liaise with the composer in order to find a solution they are happy with. 

You can submit more than one work if you wish, but not with the same alias and you can submit a work previously posted on this forum. If you are interested please let me know in this thread. 
  Entrants should then submit mp3 and full score for each piece they enter and forum members will then be asked to vote for their three favourite pieces, the winner will be chosen from the top three. If the interest is there, I will sort out the next anonymous posting phase using Gavs’ advice and set-up procedures.

Deadline for entrants to register - 15th September

Deadline for entrants submission - 30th January

Here is a well known piece programmed by me in order to give you an idea of the quality of the samples I will use on the winning piece. There are 2 files, one is live, the other isn't. I didn't try too hard to create an exact replica of the live recording and it is possible to tell the difference, but they are pretty close. Also this file has no mastering applied to it, which will be done by Ray on the winning piece. Hopefully this will entice a few more entrants.

Any questions, please ask here and I shall endeavour to answer, as an added bonus, it will also bump the thread. 

Mike.

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Thanks Ray-- It was simply a genuine suggestion to help people here, in line with this discussion.

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Ray said:

Mr Morabito,

Please following your own advice as soon as you like. You are unlikely to be missed here.

Bob Morabito said:

PS Those using NS might also be better served joining the official forums and others of the NS theyre using to see what CAN be done just using their software, and then from there possibly looking into higher priced libraries with soundsets.

Why not learn how to express yourself WITHOUT name calling and cursing?

Because you don't deserve it.

And sorry Dave but Im not going to play your game

Imagine my surprise when you continued playing it for another 154 words.

 I STILL wonder how this trouble making gets past the administrators here.

Every time I spend 30+ minutes trying to explain something to or help a composer, which inconveniently for your narrative I do fairly regularly, I get a free curse. jizz

Sorry to have to tell you this bottom line is that its cost you a lot of paid work, as people outside of the forum also view this SOOO often here, and your reputation and  the reputation of this forum suffers for it.

Doubtful. I don't think people are coming here primed to hire a little-known composer and recoiling in disgust at him saying "fuck" every few dozen posts. I haven't been looking for work since last year and in any case try not to work with idiots, which is what someone rejecting me on the grounds of my forum posts would be. It all works out, Bob, don't trouble yourself.

dont want to get too near Dave when hes like this

I know right, I might call you a clitoris or something next time

There you go Bob.

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I would hope that many more will be joining in this competition, as the response has, to me been very surprising and even disappointing, almost right from the start --its a very kind offer, and by hearing and knowing what is done to your piece in a DAW might possibly lead to investigating what similar methods might be employed in your Notation software.

The biggest changes are brought about by a good sounding library w/soundset, dynamic and articulation tweaking etc.

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Thanks Dave--just what I expected. Enjoy your day!

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Why not learn how to express yourself WITHOUT name calling and cursing?

Because you don't deserve it.

And sorry Dave but Im not going to play your game

Imagine my surprise when you continued playing it for another 154 words.

 I STILL wonder how this trouble making gets past the administrators here.

Every time I spend 30+ minutes trying to explain something to or help a composer, which inconveniently for your narrative I do fairly regularly, I get a free curse. jizz

Sorry to have to tell you this bottom line is that its cost you a lot of paid work, as people outside of the forum also view this SOOO often here, and your reputation and  the reputation of this forum suffers for it.

Doubtful. I don't think people are coming here primed to hire a little-known composer and recoiling in disgust at him saying "fuck" every few dozen posts. I haven't been looking for work since last year and in any case try not to work with idiots, which is what someone rejecting me on the grounds of my forum posts would be. It all works out, Bob, don't trouble yourself.

dont want to get too near Dave when hes like this

I know right, I might call you a clitoris or something next time

Thanks Ray--you also :)

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Ray said:

Have a nice day.

Thanks Mike :)

Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Mike Hewer said:

There you go Bob.

That is reasonable Bob. If this comp flatlines then at least some awareness might have been achieved. Do you have any affiliation with NS companies btw?


Bob Morabito said:

I would hope that many more will be joining in this competition, as the response has, to me been very surprising and even disappointing, almost right from the start --its a very kind offer, and by hearing and knowing what is done to your piece in a DAW might possibly lead to investigating what similar methods might be employed in your Notation software.

The biggest changes are brought about by a good sounding library w/soundset, dynamic and articulation tweaking etc.

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Thanks Mike--no none at all.

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

Mike Hewer said:

That is reasonable Bob. If this comp flatlines then at least some awareness might have been achieved. Do you have any affiliation with NS companies btw?


Bob Morabito said:

I would hope that many more will be joining in this competition, as the response has, to me been very surprising and even disappointing, almost right from the start --its a very kind offer, and by hearing and knowing what is done to your piece in a DAW might possibly lead to investigating what similar methods might be employed in your Notation software.

The biggest changes are brought about by a good sounding library w/soundset, dynamic and articulation tweaking etc.

Thanks Bob https://soundcloud.com/bob-morabito

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