Music Composers Unite!
I don't know if anyone cares. But it has been awhile since I posted last on these forums. I have composed a lot since then. I have in all sincerity got much better at composing. If I have a specialisation for composing it is piano, electro piano and synthesiser. I have come to the philosophical position that there isn't a lot of point showing anyone else a score; how can anyone understand someone else's scored creative ideas? Moreover from my experience entering piano composing competitions the more music degrees a judge has, the less chance they have to understand a novel music score.
But my main point of discussion here is that for me the period of time to progress from a total beginner at music to intermediate has been, for me, answered. Nearly two years ago I did not know what a note was. 18 months later I composed and published an album of complex music. So I will give the answer: 18 months. It takes 18 months to go form no music knowledge at all to being able to create totally original, genuinely complex instrumental music scores.
I have had no lessons, no teaching and no family help; I have got this far mainly from books and my own experiments. I have also concluded that composing is the hardest activity possible. In brain surgery, higher maths or landing a plane your success is functional. But in composing you have to be functional - your chosen system [diatonic, atonal etc] and the genre's demands [e.g jazz] , AND produce aesthetic musicality. So it's a multi dimensional activity.
This will be my last post for a long time. I don't post a lot on forums these days. I thank anyone who has helped me on these forums in my musical [mis]adventures. Thank you.
I thought you'd left. Yes, I'm certain of it: Anyway.
"how can anyone understand someone else's scored creative ideas?"
Because they trained to do it, or have the requisite skillset/mentality/experience to look at a score and visualise the intended effect. A conductor, say, would need to be able to do this.
Any chance we can hear these totally original, genuinely complex instrumental music scores? I don't know where you got the idea from that this forum is discriminating towards self-taught composers; I composed and orchestrated some pieces for orchestra and had them recorded, with advice from this forum, and no-one called me a fraud. Why not link, or are you not actually looking for critique?
Maybe people discriminated against you a bit because you make weighty statements like "I have also concluded that composing is the hardest activity possible. In brain surgery, higher maths or landing a plane your success is functional" without acknowledging the fact that composing a piece of shit music will not actually kill people. Just a thought.
I can't play this nice milonga by Cardozo,
cause this ship is going so much up and down,
if we go any closer with this cargo,
by the way, what you play should be piu Largo,
we'll be arrested in no time by the Maltese,
or all of us today we're going to be drown,
-ha, again another uglier frown,
when smugglers can't get closer, they sure die,
then he looked at me strait in the eye,
you don’t have what it takes to be a smuggler,
get wet in your levies or your wrangler,
after this trip is over you are fired.
I didn’t reply,
the wind was twelve beaufort,
I was too tired…